Is she testing the waters?

taking advice on relationships from a woman is like taking advice on hunting from a bear.

Yes, 75% of your relationship processing conversations are EMO-navel-gazing. The other 25% is where to go eat.

i put the bear in carnal forbearance.

To me that is the same, I am not any different in those. I show her affection and I care more about her than I do about others. I do this no matter who is around.
Only thing I did not do is talk to my fam. about this (I might would if they ask) but that is due to the fact that they have to cope with the stuff I am doing right now (or not doing), don’t wana throw more stuff at them.

alot of people have trust issues. maybe she has been hurt in the past. you can be honest and believe in what you say… but it doesn’t mean that the person you’re talking to is the same way. there are alot of horrible people out there. just look at married people: marriage is supposed to be the ultimate form of trust and loyalty, yet it only has a 50% success rating (in the US) and alot of couples lie and cheat on each other.

truth and honesty are 2 different things. you can tell somebody the truth and get them to trust you… but then they’ll tiptoe around something (which is a dishonest thing to do, btw), and you’ll lose confidence in them. this is what is happening right now.
… well I get what you are trying to say, since I see that a lot but that does not mean it rings to me. I told her couple of times she can be open with me, I appreciate honesty, actually that is all I ever asked from her, to be honest with me and not lie to me…

you’re confused and this is a result of her not being most upfront about her feelings.
Yeah because she talks about us having no future together and yet she already made an open invite for me to see her in “her new city”. She told me the same thing in NYC, “we never going to see eachother again, you will find somebody else…” and then she asks me to see her again and all.

does she show affection toward you in public places? like restaurants? when you’re walking to your car? when you’re shopping together, etc,?
She does, she likes to hold hands and kiss etc.

but is she?

it looks to me like she is tip toeing around wanting to be with you when she should be more forward about what she wants.

I show her affection and I care more about her than I do about others. I do this no matter who is around.

be careful with that… and i’ll answer more on this later in this post.

… well I get what you are trying to say, since I see that a lot but that does not mean it rings to me. I told her couple of times she can be open with me, I appreciate honesty, actually that is all I ever asked from her, to be honest with me and not lie to me…

Yeah because she talks about us having no future together and yet she already made an open invite for me to see her in “her new city”. She told me the same thing in NYC, “we never going to see eachother again, you will find somebody else…” and then she asks me to see her again and all.

she may only be dishonest because she thinks it will keep you around. normally, this would raise a red flag… but it’s not the typical case where she does something mean (like cheat on you) then lies to you about it so you’ll stay with her. this is simply her not wanting to tell you how she really feels.

She does, she likes to hold hands and kiss etc.

she is pursuing a serious relationship with you.

you and she can agree or disagree, but this is what is happening.

she was passively doing it when she makes attempts to see you and then shares intimacy (even something as small as holding hands when you’re driving), whether it’s for a romantic evening or not. when you display affection or closeness in public, you are letting others know “hey, this person is with me right now.” she was claiming you–even though you’re not her boyfriend yet, this display signals other women into not going near you.

introducing you to her family made the pursuit active. her family now knows you exist and even though you were only introduced as “a friend”, they see you as potential breeding stock for grandchildren/nieces/nephews. they will ask her how you are. when you’re not around, they will ask where you are.

it is only a matter of time before she asks you to another family function.

if you really want to know where you stand with her, you’re going to have to sit down with her and lay all the cards on the table. you know what you want. now it’s time to know what she wants. be rude about it if you have to. don’t spare her feelings.

Well, tried it while I was there. Wed had some dinner and she was talking about me leaving and her going to start something new (job, city) and again her “I don’t want you to get hurt, we have no future …” and all but on the other hand we were talking futureplans in general (again her talking about how she will name her kids). After the dinner, before I had to leave we had this big good bye (in public if you need to know)… Thing is, I didn’t wana pressure her too much since we were in a restaurant and shit, I don’t think that is the right place.

Guess I will sleep over it a little more and see how this all plays out.

As a woman, I have to give you props for this one . . . I agree.

Well as far as I know, bears hunt a lot, they do it in order to survive, hence I would take their advice any time…:tongue5:

Somebody mentioned bears?
YouTube - Bear Fucker

where is Neildo when i need him?

I’m gonna go ahead and hedge my bets and say “stoned”.

Yes. We’re from Mars and they’re from Venus. Or something.

of course they know how to hunt, but why would they tell you how to…oh nevermind.

Bears can’t talk anyway.

No shit Sherlock? I wonder who brought up the bears in the first place… ahh never mind.

And while they may not tell me how to hunt, observing one of the more “psyched out” bears (hi fes) will help me. After all this is how we learn, observe, try and error. Well for me usually more try and way more error than observe but you now, practice makes perfect. (And now I am out of sayings… well not really but it would get old)

Frank White for president. Or something.

Okay, tried to talk to her and here is her reply

She did this before, just not replying to me but posting songs/videos on her blog because she knows I check. But this time I don’t get it, usually she added a few lines that gave me some clues, this time I’m lost, it is not fitting HER situation. :question::question::question:

“Video not available in your country”.

The Script - The Man Who Can’t Be Moved” Maybe this one will work for you YouTube - The man who can’t be Moved. - The script. [w/lyrics]

she’s saying that she’ll wait around for you.

Hmm, hope that is what it means and that she still musters to give me a “real” answer.