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[QUOTE=Heuristic;2964080]You don’t think I exhibited any form of skill?

There is one guy in my TKD school who is good, and I sparred him today. He has an above the waste kickboxing background. Full contact.

He roundhoused and spin kicked against my blocks and tripped on his ass half a dozen times.

He may proclaim to be the superior ring fighter, but I could have grabbed anyone of his roundhouse kicks and dumped his ass to the ground. That’s the main reason I hate kickboxing. Silly combos. I like Thaiboxing more[/QUOTE]

I’m so glad you keep offering up such great proof as: “this one time in band camp…”

[QUOTE=Heuristic;2964084]How the fuck did I end in un a Bullshido thread with guys apparently arguing for Taekwondo, my own art???You guys take any position if it’s contrary to mine. Even defending the king of useless fluff, AKA Taekwondo.[/QUOTE]

You’re delusional if you think ANYONE is defending TKD. We are just implying that, based on your words, that you suck even more than the average TKD dork.

[QUOTE=Heuristic;2964101]I’m just saying if he throws that roundhouse kick on concrete, it will be the last thing he does. The street is the true measure of fighting abilities. I have no problem with a Kickboxer having ring control and athletic abilities. BUT that shit only works in shiny pants in safe environments… I would clinch or just slam him to the ground, as I have done to real Street fighters far bigger than me.[/QUOTE]

You forgot about broken glass and Aids needles.

[QUOTE=Heuristic;2964101]I’m just saying if he throws that roundhouse kick on concrete, it will be the last thing he does. The street is the true measure of fighting abilities. I have no problem with a Kickboxer having ring control and athletic abilities. BUT that shit only works in shiny pants in safe environments… I would clinch or just slam him to the ground, as I have done to real Street fighters far bigger than me.[/QUOTE]

So, let’s go over all the things that are completely wrong in this post, then we can cover all the things in my prior post you’ve failed to even attempt to address…

Oh, wait, never mind. I didn’t realize you were literally retarded.

[QUOTE=Heuristic;2964111]By that logic, Western Boxing is not a style either. Just a ruleset.[/QUOTE]

Very good, you’re learning.

[QUOTE=Omega Supreme;2964117]Very good, you’re learning.[/QUOTE]

Western boxing is taught in a very uniform way across the globe. In fact, way more consistent than traditional martial arts. Even in the same school, TKD is a disjointed mess of patterns and sparring. One having very little relation to the other. Not to mention that the instructor wants half assed boxing punches on the mitts, not the punches drilled in forms. Makes absolutely no sense.

[QUOTE=Heuristic;2964110]I have done ITF TKD for 3 and half years, boxing for one term.[/quote]
LOL no wonder you are so ignorant. You have the noobie syndrome. I have more boxing and KMA than you do… tho one of those isn’t really worth bragging about

My father is however a former European Champion in Shotokan Karate and the highest ranked instructor in his organization. A legend in Karate.

Drop that name and chances are one of us knows him.

How old do you think I am based on my facial features?

Early to mid twenties …

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Oh and thank you for answering the question asked pages ago.

[QUOTE=Heuristic;2964118]Western boxing is taught in a very uniform way across the globe. In fact, way more consistent than traditional martial arts. Even in the same school, TKD is a disjointed mess of patterns and sparring. One having very little relation to the other. Not to mention that the instructor wants half assed boxing punches on the mitts, not the punches drilled in forms. Makes absolutely no sense.[/QUOTE]

So there’s no other styles of boxing that can be used in a boxing ring. Then why do they call it Western Boxing? Even in other systems of Western Boxing there are different flavors. Try not to confuse it. Boxing is a ruleset not a style.

[QUOTE=Omega Supreme;2964121]So there’s no other styles of boxing that can be used in a boxing ring. Then why do they call it Western Boxing? Even in other systems of Western Boxing there are different flavors. Try not to confuse it. Boxing is a ruleset not a style.[/QUOTE]

Maybe we are just down to semantics. What I mean is that Western Boxing is a martial art style just like Muay Thai. I don’t think everything a boxing instructor teaches you makes perfect sense outside of boxing rules, but that’s true of all combat arts.

[QUOTE=Heuristic;2964122]Maybe we are just down to semantics. What I mean is that Western Boxing is a martial art style just like Muay Thai. I don’t think everything a boxing instructor teaches you makes perfect sense outside of boxing rules, but that’s true of all combat arts.[/QUOTE] Wow, it took you this entire time to figure this out. My job is done.

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Oh, wait, never mind. I didn’t realize you were literally retarded.[/QUOTE]

That makes this entire thread your fault.

Anyway, my experience so far in above the waste/no clinch rules is inconclusive. It’s very hard for the western boxer to get in range to punch effectively if the kicker does not comply. However, it’s equally hard for a kicker to actually do damage if the other side does not try to kick himself, and has experienced facing other kickboxers.

He landed Zero clean kicks on me . And this is a guy who has a competitive background in full contact. He actually got bored and wanted me to kick. It just didn’t match up very well.

TKD does give you experience of kicks thrown at you from different angles. I am surprised how I parry some of his shots, holding on for dear life.

[QUOTE=Heuristic;2964129]Anyway, my experience so far is inconclusive. It’s very hard for the western boxer to get in range to punch effectively if the kicker does not comply. However, it’s equally hard for a kicker to actually do damage if the other side does not try to kick himself, and has experienced facing other kickboxers.He landed Zero kicks on me. And this is a guy who has a competitive background in full contact. He actually got bored and wanted me to kick. It just didn’t match up very well. TKD does give you experience of kicks thrown at you from different angles. I am surprised how I parry some of his shots, holding on for dear life.[/QUOTE]In your experience.

[QUOTE=Omega Supreme;2964130]In your experience.[/QUOTE]

In fairness to kickers, it may very well be that my TKD base (even though I don’t use it) is the reason why he gets nowhere. If I had only boxing training I would maybe stand stupidly and not block his kicks as effectively.

[QUOTE=Heuristic;2964131]In fairness to kickers, it may very well be that my TKD base (even though I don’t use it) is the reason why he gets nowhere. If I had only boxing training I would maybe stand stupidly and not block his kicks as effectively.[/QUOTE]Or he sucks.

[QUOTE=Omega Supreme;2964133]Or he sucks.[/QUOTE]

That’s not fair. He was fighting a guy with 3 1/2 years of TKD AND a “term” of boxing. Red belt!

Is “term” one semester at the university boxing club?

I’m confused. Dad’s a champion Shotokan fighter. Kid does TKD and has a term of boxing under his belt yet you doubt his expertise. Senile old man.

[QUOTE=Omega Supreme;2964133]Or he sucks.[/QUOTE]

He has awesome leg dexterity and has won Kickboxing Championships in Serbia. Also fast. The only thing I dislike about him is that he kicks to knock me out. I know from simply blocking the kicks that he doesn’t hold anything back. That rubbs me the wrong concidering his level, that he shows complete disregard for safety.

He kicks like a modern K1 kickboxer. Full swing. No lead leg sidekicks. Every technique is to KO me.

[QUOTE=Heuristic;2964136]He has awesome leg dexterity and has won Kickboxing Championships in Serbia. Also fast. The only thing I dislike about him is that he kicks to knock me out. I know from simply blocking the kicks that he doesn’t hold anything back. That rubbs me the wrong concidering his level, that he shows complete disregard for safety.

He kicks like a modern K1 kickboxer. Full swing. No lead leg sidekicks. Every technique is to KO me.[/QUOTE]

But yet you claim he didn’t leg kick you into a crying purple lumpy pulp. You are full of shit or he is full of shit.

[QUOTE=BackFistMonkey;2964137]But yet you claim he didn’t leg kick you into a crying purple lumpy pulp. You are full of shit or he is full of shit.[/QUOTE]

We did above the waste rules in an open dojang. His background is apparently some type of WAKO KB. no mouth piece or cup. No head gear. He wore foot protectors, I did not. I am happy he can’t land shit but I was not able to impose my game. He is in his early 20s, I am close to 30.