Lol backfist monkey I love you too
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there are no secret. [/quote]
facepalm
Reaction not work in the real.
So wc don’t create fighter, but deadly.
:tongue9: [quote=Larus marinus;2308799]
Would it be possible to get a working definition of ‘Wing Chun concepts’? Sometimes it seems as though (and I’m only exaggerating slightly here) that the Chunners will claim that anyone using a punch in a fight is using WCC.[/quote]
every martial-arts are mix-martial arts, they born from mix of former MA. Wing chun offer you a chi sao training method. That is training method, how about you start train chi-sao ad you’ll see the benefit from your primary martial-art.
let me think
[quote=SoylentNinja;2309065]right…
So why train in wing chun at all then?[/quote]
why you train wrestling and judo then ?
I train wingchun for the chi sao training METHOD.
Well, that’s a first.
[quote=tataksarella;2309102]Reaction not work in real ? LOL
funny dude.[/quote]
you sensitivity training you chisao method not work right when fight.
No think. You think you no time fighting.
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I train wingchun for the chi sao training METHOD.[/quote]
I no more wingchun for the chisao everyday training method.
[quote=hitandrun;2309134]you sensitivity training you chisao method not work right when fight.
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why you can say it’s not work ? If you read my post again I said wing chun design for self defense againts Untrainned person not to compete with other professional martial artist. Wing chun not work againts MMA champ or 10 times kickboxer champ !!! Don’t you still get it ?
Again and again, and I repeat again chi sao is training, same as when you train hit punching bag in boxer/muay thai/or whatever , If training with punching bag is not necessary why tyson train it, you ask him.
@Hitandrun:
if you said :
Chi sao is not work in real, so also punching bag , punching bag is not human, punching bag don’t hit back , why train it ?
have you train wing chun ? how long ? (2 months ?)…lol
or you train in front your PC ? what makes you thinks some art cannot work if you never train in it.
and Seminar is NOT TRAINING !! Seminar is advertise to some school, for get more member of course. Watching Youtube, buy books, is not training also! Imagine the tehnique in your mind, is not training.
My friend. I get clear. But I say, it not work with any fight. Sensitivity no sensing.
But bag swing back. Mok Jung dummy not.
[quote=tataksarella;2309168]@Hitandrun:
have you train wing chun ? how long ? (2 months ?)…lol
or you train in front your PC ? what makes you thinks some art cannot work if you never train in it.[/quote]
Yes I paksao in front pc. I listen Wong Fei Hung music when do.
[quote=tataksarella;2309166]why you can say it’s not work ? If you read my post again I said wing chun design for self defense againts Untrainned person not to compete with other professional martial artist. Wing chun not work againts MMA champ or 10 times kickboxer champ !!! Don’t you still get it ?
Again and again, and I repeat again chi sao is training, same as when you train hit punching bag in boxer/muay thai/or whatever , If training with punching bag is not necessary why tyson train it, you ask him.[/quote]
If the chun only works against untrained people why bother training it at all becouse when you inevitabley run into someone trained you’re fucked. Seriously, why bother.
@hit&run : wooden dummy train if you don’t have partner. Train with punching bag is good, I just don’t know why some Wingchun teacher don’t include in their training, people create a new tools for training, but they still too fanatic with their traditional old tools.
the core in Wing chun is chi sao training with patner. In application you don’t do playing stupid hands game, same with try controlling hands in Jijutsu.
He likes the sticky hand stuffs.
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I train wingchun for the chi sao training METHOD.
[/QUOTE]
This is too easy I am starting to feel guilty…
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the core in Wing chun is chi sao training with patner. [/quote]
But no work real fight. U chisao too long time U forget when real. No time to sensing.
Wei! U no go there.
How do kick in their ass?
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punching bag don’t hit back[/quote]
This is a troll, isn’t it?
I’m sorry you were taught horrible Chi Sao… Chi Sao is a drill, if you use it in a real fight somethings gone amiss… Its supposed to teach you sensitiivy dude…
Did you come from a linage where they did Chi Sao down below where it wasn’t practical…
Gah didn’t I say I was gonna back out… HEAHACHE!!!
This is YMAS after all…
No wait, shut the fuck up all of you, we were on to something new.
I’m also curious.
How do kick in their ass?
[quote=SwordSaintSSX;2309195]@hitandrun
I’m sorry you were taught horrible Chi Sao… Chi Sao is a drill, if you use it in a real fight somethings gone amiss… Its supposed to teach you sensitiivy dude…
Did you come from a linage where they did Chi Sao down below where it wasn’t practical…
Gah didn’t I say I was gonna back out… HEAHACHE!!!
This is YMAS after all…[/quote]
You’d be amazed at some of the stupid stuff that Chunners have apparently been taught by people experienced enough to know better.
e.g. If someone swings at you with a baseball bat - bong sao the bat
e.g. If someone slashes at you with a knife - bong sao the blade
What, thats absolutely bs. I was taught GET THE F*** OUTTA THE WAY and then proceed with some sort of practical technique you were taught, whihc would be something to do with not touching the blade at all…
Whats the sudden obession with Bong Sao, I’ve only Bong Sao’d once in a match with my boxer friends and he had more momentum so he went straight through and knocked my noggin…
Though I did find it very useful against Karate people… You have to chain your attacks.