I wish to appropriate your culture, Vemand!
I especially liked the rolling woman
Tropic Thunder lampooned that whole idea, didnāt it?
It pretty much lampooned everything!
I dare you. I double dare youā¦
Let me start it myself
Most people of color are offended by black face in America because it is discriminatory.
Most women that are the kind to be offended by drag are probably only offended because they donāt like gay and trans people.
What is RuPaulās target audience. Women and gay/trans men.
Straight men are far more likely to be angry at RuPaul because they donāt like his sexual orientation.
I think the statistics alone bears out the relative truth that drag is not equivalent to black face.
That could change but right now it really seems like itās just a relatively small % of people.
RuPaulās audience is gay/trans men.
Lol, not anymore.
Thereās a feminism brand that considers gay and trans visibility issues as an extension of dominance of women by men.
Their argument is that a womanās identity canāt be assumed by a man without empowering a masculine oriented point of view over the woman herself.
Being a manās choice to impersonate a woman, he will only do it on the foundations of the oppressing social meta structure of what a womanās identity should be, and specially of what it should not be.
And thatās what the humorous take is intended, theoretically, to hide.
Like āyou canāt be a woman by wanting it because your idea of a woman comes from a masculinist worldā.
And yet, you know, ānobody is perfectā .
Shit, really? What happened? Did he come out as Trump supporter or something?
Nah. But Ru is pretty trans-exclusionary, which is 100% not kosher.
Why is Black Face discriminatory?
Iām no asking to be thick, but to establish a frame work to mesure other forms of impersonation like drag
I fail to see the relevance.
The reason why I donāt like it is because I donāt want to be an asshole to a stranger.
The reasons why a black person might not be offended is entirely up to them. Itās not my prerogative.
Hereās one for you
Men see a man dressed as a woman ridiculous
Men see a woman dressed as a man threatening
Thatās entirely subjective.
If you canāt demonstrate why something is discriminatory how can you say it is?
50 years ago it was not considered discriminatory
Unless that stranger is female?
In what way does this not apply to a woman and drag?
Iām guessing it has something to do with how black impersonation was used to make black people appear less than human.
Iāll let you in on a secret, I donāt like drag either.
I stay out of things that arenāt in my lane. I stay out of other peopleās lane. Their issues are their issues. I donāt get involved unless it becomes a matter of people being hurt.
If you find me a pack of crossdressers who love ABBA and go around tossing firebombs into womenās social centers you might bring me around to the idea that drag needs to be shut down.
I would argue that drag has the same effect on women
The entertainment value of something like Ru Paul is the back biting, two facedness, and passive aggressive manipulation considered to be female traits
Iām not a crossdresser and neither of us are women.
Iāve never been to 1 drag show, let alone participated. I just donāt see the equivalence because I donāt see drag people trying to put women down. In fact, they seem to be surrounded by women and it seems to be women that enjoy these things the most out of anyone except maybe other drag people.
If you find me a black face minstrel show that is enormously popular with black people and then you might be able to make the argument.
So far, you just look like youāre going in circles.
And donāt project that shit on me. You havenāt made your case successfully.
Iāll tell you what, Iāll leave it up to women to decide and stay the fuck out of that. Meanwhile, youāre not a girl so I donāt take you very seriously on the matter.