WMD? WTF? Let's revisit allied involvement in Iraq

I no longer care what you do or do not say on the subject

I prefer to discuss the issue with others with a more cooperative style of discourse

I know you are not that stupid.

The irony ā€¦

too much irony, man.

If my question was "how stupid am I? " that would be a fair answer

The WMDs were always a false premises to exact regime change in Iraq , the results of which we are still living with

Yah, no one has to receive their loved ones body parts in a bag because they looked at Sadam the wrong way.

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Instead we have ISIS, Iranian backed militias and mines and UXBs to dismember family members

Not to mention the innocent civilians killed by friendly fire of one kind or another

The Saudis are just as malevolent as Saddam, and theyā€™re our allies

Instead of what?

A brutal dictator was deposed.

There are scores of brutal dictators in the world

What was it about Saddam that set him apart from the rest?

If you remember your history, he was our ally pre 1990, holding Iran in check

He was never an ally of mine.

Iā€™m sure George jr heard lots of stories from his dad about what a giant piece of shit he was.

He probably thought he was doing the world a favor. Which he was.

For perspective, the war cost approx 150,000 Iraqi lives over the 3 years of war (50,000 per year )

Saddam caused the death of approx 300,000 Iraqis over 23 years (13,000 per year)

He was the enemy of an enemy. He was never an ally.

I can answer that for you, you often appear pretty damn stupid. Your tendency to try to put words in peopleā€™s mouths is juvenile and unbecoming of an adult.

Are you having a hard time with the WMD in Iraq issue because you donā€™t consider chemical or biological weapons to be WMD?

Please note, I was never and am still not in favor of the US military invading other countries. I am arguing that Iraq did have non-nuclear WMDs, not that the US was justified in invading.

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That is a semantic fig leaf

It is a fact.

No more than the UN weapons inspectors had

If the ability to produce chlorine gas is equivalent to having WMDs it would seem I have WMDs in my utility room

Please donā€™t invade me

Iā€™m not sure if your numbers are correct.

But the realities and nuances of the Iraq war canā€™t be told and understood just by your simple math equivocation.

No, it is a comforting lie to mitigate the dirty business of geopolitics

What are the correct numbers ?

However, your primary argument to justify getting rid of Saddam was the number of people he murdered

The numbers donā€™t stack up, and had the sanctions continued it is likely that the Iraqis, helped by Iran would have removed him themselves

Iran and Iraq were once one Persia you know

It was only western meddling that set them apart

You have how many Kurds buried in your garden?

No it wasnā€™t.

I didnā€™t make any justifications.

I simply stated my opinion that the world was better off with him and cronies swinging by their throats because they were violent malevolent shit bags.