I never said it was unprovoked. I’m saying that strangling him was unnecessary.
Same. Its manslaughter, but he should have known rnc was lethal force and due to position unnecessary
Again, you are assuming he was strangled. Let’s get that tox screen. Let’s watch the videos that haven’t been released.
Dude was clearly motile and conscious while in the RNC. Every BJJ/Judo guy here knows that you can put it on heavy, or just be in control.
You are ascribing a motive based on shallow if not not existent reasoning, but at the same time saying “oh, yeah, dude was definitely fucking up.” Loss of life, yeah, sorry, bro. It was a hard life, by the accounts I’ve read (some of which I have posted, above). You done fucked up, though. Hopefully, you don’t take everyone else with you.
Agreed. Noob stuff, like I wrote.
I’m saying, regardless of drugs on board, mental illness (those are really red herrings), no need to choke the dude out given superior position, plus 2 or 3 guys helping.
Victim is not a huge, strong dude, although, as you know, a skinny guy all coked/methed up and feeling no pain and not caring can be pretty strong…
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He ascribed motive? Like, racism?
Oh, was the victim black? I must have missed that part in the headline “White ex-Marine chokes black man to death on NYC subway”
Did Osiris write that headline?
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Im not assuming shit. Im an expert in grappling, particularly in a security context. I can see exactly whats wrong here. First off, his feet are crossed. Second, he’s clearly got the guy in a rear naked choke, which kills people.
@submessenger is a grappling noob, forgive him his sins. He thought an armbar and kote hineri was checking the guys pulse.
All this is a delusional jiujitsu wannabe, two people pretending to be useful, and a case of manslaughter. All that’s happening. Race isn’t even relevant.
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In short, he’s trying to treat the hard working black men around him like trash, while elevating literal street thugs for woke points, so no one notices. Its fucking ridiculous.
And if you for a second think that someone owns us, or owns our work, then you are NOT with us and will NEVER be an ally. If you don’t believe, come meet with the other community leaders and repeat the bullshit that you said, and explain why. Then explain woke you are. See how that works out for you when actual black people are around.
The people bringing up mental health services are uninformed and naive.
Mental health services do not work regarding mentally ill people, better than placebo, outside of the incidental incarceration effect.
They might as well be saying “need more holy water” or “need more magic amulets.
The mental health industry and mental health “professionals” do no better than clergy or even lay people regarding the mentally ill or mental illness.
It’s a sham / hoax industry.
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The choker was indicted.
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Feels like that here in the UK. I have multiple friends with severe psychiatric disorders that go untreated, including my as of two weeks ago ex. Diagnosis can happen slowly and then you’re waiting months at best to be seen in the mental health services for discussion before you can even have the talks about medication or therapy, and even then, CBT is basically short six weeks with one appointment per seven days, how much is that going to help people in general?
People in my country slag off the USA’s medical privatisation as if the NHS doesnt have its own glaring problems regarding access, funding, time efficiency etc.
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Plus, the goal is off. Their desire is to neutralize the victim, not help. Thats also what most people want. Same result only state police strangle him out sight somewhere.
Notice that in my case the same people that are telling me to get help are the same people publishing the defamatory information causing all the trouble. You’ll be hard pressed to get people help with that attitude.
Now, you CAN get people into jobs, but that has to start young and be a cultural push.
Theres really not much you can do for someone who’s high note is Michael Jackson impersonations. If thats the best youve got, youre not gonna ever go far.
Freaking out, yes, apparently. But what makes you think we was a danger to those around him? Who did he assault? Who was injured by his “freak out”? If I choked out everyone who was having an episode on public transportation, I would have racked up a lot of kills just commuting to work every day.
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Right.
It’s not humane to choke out nutty people, though. We don’t do it asylums, and random civilians are definitely not licensed to go around doing it. I think a little MA training makes people very dangerous, they all think they are Batman.
This hasn’t been mentioned in the news for 5 months so everyone has already forgotten.
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There’s been several hundred new (ᴛʜɪɴʟʏ-ᴠᴇɪʟᴇᴅ ʀᴀᴄɪsᴛ) culture war topics to glom onto since.
Smoke detectors mainly