If the story is correct then the blonde individual is very ridiculous in his attempt to “outbox” a boxer. Boxing used to be a very rough fighting style used by the early Western pioneers of fighting but slowly devolved from social pressures into the rigid rule based system it now is. One would have to re-adapt boxing to it’s old glory if one was to use it effectively in a match where rules aren’t evident. The MMA fighter made a deadly mistake choosing to limit himself by fighting with boxing rules with a man whose dominance is made within those rules.
[QUOTE=saiyan2k1;2715104]If the story is correct then the blonde individual is very ridiculous in his attempt to “outbox” a boxer. Boxing used to be a very rough fighting style used by the early Western pioneers of fighting but slowly devolved from social pressures into the rigid rule based system it now is. One would have to re-adapt boxing to it’s old glory if one was to use it effectively in a match where rules aren’t evident. [/quote]No.
The MMA fighter made a deadly mistake choosing to limit himself by fighting with boxing rules with a man whose dominance is made within those rules.
This is fine.
saiyan2k1 thinks rules ruin everything.
Seems the rules were set up in traditional Karate full-contact style (no punches or elbows to the head). If the purpose was to show which style is better with these specific rules then it might seem that the Karate experts have the advantage. There are no rules in the streets and thus the only proper measure of a martial art’s legitimacy is in a no rules contest.
Wing Tsun VS Boxing
The boxer seems to have felt rather annoyed at the Wing Chun practitioner and merely seeks to play with him discarding proper Boxing form. It would make more sense if the Wing Chun instructor would have asked for a fight without gloves where the boxer’s hands would no longer have any sort of protection. This is not to say that the wing chun practitioner would have won but it would have made more sense.
Yes, without gloves, boxers hands explode when they come in contact with the air.
[QUOTE=saiyan2k1;2715293]The boxer seems to have felt rather annoyed at the Wing Chun practitioner and merely seeks to play with him discarding proper Boxing form. It would make more sense if the Wing Chun instructor would have asked for a fight without gloves where the boxer’s hands would no longer have any sort of protection. This is not to say that the wing chun practitioner would have won but it would have made more sense.[/QUOTE]
After reading this post I can honestly say you need to remove “boxing” from your style field.
[QUOTE=Urbanassassin;2699531]Honestly, I don’t see how this proves anything. It proves that the boxer has better hands than the MMA guy. Well of course he does! His entire art is based around punching. But If you limit the MMA guys arsenal ( he couldn’t clinch, he couldnt kick, he couldn’t knee or elbow or hammer fist etc ) then that kind of defeats the purpose.[/QUOTE] i agree completely. some of the early pioneers of boxing had a different style which was more defensive and careful making sure to protect their fists which could be easily damaged from contact with bone. Some of these pioneers even practiced early wrestling and even incorporated it into their personal fighting style. It was through social pressures that boxers began wearing gloves (which better protected their hands), modern boxing rules appeared, and wrestling became it’s own separate sport.
[QUOTE=Kuya Benja;2708454]Heh… they should have used mma gloves and boxed. Wonder how it would have turned out different…[/QUOTE]It would probably have had the same result considering the match was with boxing rules. they were measuring striking ability under boxing rules 
now if all ego was put aside and one was to measure their different art’s usefulness in a no-rules environment (for which the fighting art’s were made for) you would see much more to offer from MMA. Boxing is great to build a good foundation in the arts.
[QUOTE=lionknight;2715367]After reading this post I can honestly say you need to remove “boxing” from your style field.[/QUOTE]Your comment does not follow any sort of logic. You clearly know nothing about human anatomy. Even olympic boxer’s hands would be damaged from contact to bone. I advise you to look up the video “just Bareknuckle Boxing” video which is available in this website and look at the differences between bare knuckle and boxing with gloves.
[QUOTE=saiyan2k1;2715616]Your comment does not follow any sort of logic. You clearly know nothing about human anatomy. Even olympic boxer’s hands would be damaged from contact to bone. I advise you to look up the video “just Bareknuckle Boxing” video which is available in this website and look at the differences between bare knuckle and boxing with gloves.[/QUOTE]
I have an even better suggestion. It involves you taking your opinion which has been lubricated by everyone here pissing on it from a great height and shoving it in your arse, barenkuclee style.
[QUOTE=Holy Moment;2486111]But Wing Chun was invented by a woman, and was designed for smaller people to fight larger people!
Ok, obviously that sentence was retarded. But it is what actual Wing Chun people say, and it goes to show you that Wing Chun is a martial art designed for its practitioners to make excuses. If a Chunner loses a fight and he was bigger than his opponent, his fellow Chunners will say that he was too big to use Wing Chun properly. However, if the Chunner was smaller than his opponent, they’ll say that he was too small to make it a fair fight.[/QUOTE] I Agree. Wing chun does seem to be too rigid to become very effective. The main problem with Wing chun is it’s bad defense against an aggressive attacker. Not much kick combinations or defenses neither and huge openings on the sides make it a bit vulnerable.
[QUOTE=battlefields;2715617]I have an even better suggestion. It involves you taking your opinion which has been lubricated by everyone here pissing on it from a great height and shoving it in your arse, barenkuclee style.[/QUOTE]I had no idea that the The Rock makes pro-wrestling shoots on here O_O
[QUOTE=saiyan2k1;2715293]The boxer seems to have felt rather annoyed at the Wing Chun practitioner and merely seeks to play with him discarding proper Boxing form. [/quote]
The best way to show a guy that his kung fu is no good is to beat him casually.
It would make more sense if the Wing Chun instructor would have asked for a fight without gloves where the boxer’s hands would no longer have any sort of protection.
Do you really think he would have fared better if all those punches that were hitting him weren’t padded?
This is not to say that the wing chun practitioner would have won but it would have made more sense.
Actually it makes perfect sense for a chunner who rarely spars to wear proper safety gear when sparring a boxer.
[QUOTE=saiyan2k1;2715616]Your comment does not follow any sort of logic. You clearly know nothing about human anatomy. Even olympic boxer’s hands would be damaged from contact to bone. I advise you to look up the video “just Bareknuckle Boxing” video which is available in this website and look at the differences between bare knuckle and boxing with gloves.[/QUOTE]I’d advise you to look up any number of streetfight videos and see that you have just created a logical fallacy.
Someone needs to write a handbook of pathetic chun excuses.
[QUOTE=saiyan2k1;2715292]Seems the rules were set up in traditional Karate full-contact style (no punches or elbows to the head). If the purpose was to show which style is better with these specific rules then it might seem that the Karate experts have the advantage. There are no rules in the streets and thus the only proper measure of a martial art’s legitimacy is in a no rules contest.[/QUOTE]
The only way to test a martial art’s legitimacy is untestable, legally where I live, by your standards.
Go watch the earliest UFC’s. If a martial artist needs to use fish hooks and eye gouges to win a fight, then they need to rethink their training.
Or post a video of a guy using _ing __un to win a street fight.
With that New thread time.
Culled:
Wing Tsun VS Boxing
You cant OutBox Boxers
Kyokushin Karate vs Wing Chun
How did we end up in this thread? This is like the third predator movie. We are on the chunners home planet now.
Mr Fake is that Mr Dinklage in your avatar? What Mr Movie is it from?
[QUOTE=Permalost;2715663]The best way to show a guy that his kung fu is no good is to beat him casually.
Do you really think he would have fared better if all those punches that were hitting him weren’t padded?
Actually it makes perfect sense for a chunner who rarely spars to wear proper safety gear when sparring a boxer.[/QUOTE]
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you are correct that showing someone that their style sucks is by fighting them casually lol i don’t disagree with that
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I don’t believe that he would have fared better
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It is true that it would make sense for a chunner who rarely spars to wear proper safety gear but it’s unsure if he rarely spars. He probably works too much on forms