Pulling out of Afghanistan,

LOL @ one article from 2019 and the other from 2016

Breaking news

You mean 2019 and 2021 respectively. There are tons of similar articles. Those are the ones I sited because they’re the first I saw in a long, long list of search results.

And here’s one straight from the horse’s mouth. Chinese controlled media. English edition for the Sino impaired.

Volunteer to help some refugees some time. you’ll learn a lot about the nature of dictatorial foreign regimes very quickly. Part of my “American exceptionalism” screed includes the belief that law abiding immigrants make this country stronger, refugees have more reason to love America more than anyone and that any able bodied man or woman who wants to work an honest job should be welcomed and rewarded accordingly. Nothing I have ever seen contradicts this belief. We are a meritocracy.

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Let’s see how welcoming Beijing is to the new regime in Kabul when Uyghurs are using Afghanistan as a base for insurgency

I wonder if Chinese opium dens are still a thing in China.

Twenty years wasn’t enough time to train contractors?

Sure. It’s easy to blame it on Trump. Biden could have made any changes to previous agreements he wanted. He’s done it in a plethora of other areas. Saying it would be seen as an escalation is a bit of a stretch.

On this we’ll disagree.

Maybe it’s China’s turn to have a go at Afghanistan

Total bragging rights if they pulled it off

New administrations are expected to honor the treaty agreements of past administrations, so on the one part he has something of a point if not for the fact he could have obviously tried a lot harder to bring up any concerns and renegotiate terms with the Afghan government. Or just missed the deadline and said “oops”.

This whole thing is a total clusterfuck. I give zero credit to either administration on the subject. Failure is failure.

I don’t remember a senate hearing on any treaty with the Taliban. Until then with a 2/3 vote, there is none. You know this.

The Orange one would possibly have insured there was a more stable pullout. Possibly not. Either way, our current Commander in Chief has waffled.

Totally agree on your last. This is and was going to be a clusterfuck no matter who was overseeing it. Afghanistan is a shithole.

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The US supposedly told the Afganis that we would provide the logistical support for their air force and we would not be doing front line fighting. Therefore the AAF didn’t work on creating their own cadre of maintance people. Dumb huh, especially trusting us to keep our word.

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True, not that the domestic American procedural portion would matter to anyone in Afghanistan. Again, I give Biden no credit for this coming or going. He whiffed it. Maybe the Pentagon or DoS has something up their sleeve.

The thing that bothered me the worst is why they waited so damn long to pull out refugees who worked for us. Some of those people stayed in Afghanistan just to help when they had other means of egress out of the country like highly educated Westernized botanists, horticulturists and veterinarians who worked propping up Afghanistan’s agricultural infrastructure and educating farmers on modern farming methods as well as translators, educators, doctors, nurses, etc. The Taliban will kill them as dead as anyone else who worked with American or NATO forces. This whole thing is fucked coming and going.

We have totally failed in our commitment to pull out those who closely helped us. That is in-itself an abject failure. Our southern border is all but open for those willing to wait yet those who risked their lives got lip service. I don’t care how anyone wants to spin it and spin it they’re doing, this is bullshit.

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Fucking couldn’t get visas my fucking screaming USMC ass. Who’s going to risk helping us in the future? THIS shit did not have to happen to this scale.

FUCK

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Us losing credibility is a thing. Us leaving behind those who helped us in the mission is altogether another.

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So I’ve been through the articles in this post and non mention Russia or PRC supplying arms, vehicles or equipment to the Taliban

All they say is both countries want good relations with the Taliban to further their own domestic agenda

Have you any sources that are backing up your accusation that Russia and China are equipping the Taliban?

Those Kalashnikovs and rocket launchers were built in caves by people who can’t read or write. It’s God’s work.

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Pakistan produces most of the AKs, many are indeed fabricated in caves

The RPGs are most likely from Pakistan as well

And from the recent footage, half the Talibs are toting M4’s and M16’s

Yes, Pakistan does produce some of these.

I’d like to see any evidence of cave manufacture though.

Everyone knows where the source is for the US weaponry.

This is not arming the Taliban to any meaningful extent.

2000 shops each producing 1 AK per day

You do the maths

You do the maths. Reread your article.

I’ll sit on four decades plus of manufacturing experience, an intimate knowledge of firearms and the complexity of producing the same.

You realize I’m sure those arms also must consume things that go bang and fly through the air.

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