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[QUOTE=goodlun;2830527]I am sure the publicity alone is worth what ever legal troubles DBH gets into.
I think it would be difficult to find a jury that would convict DBH on what ever charges he would actually face in confronting War Machine.
That being said he certainly could get himself into a whole lot of trouble.[/QUOTE]

What, it might be about publicity? The thought never occurred to me…

Hell, DBH got arrested in Mexico, then extradited from the US to Mexico for his shenanigans down there. He’s out walking around now, which is a lot more than one can say for a lot of people who went into the Mexican “justice” system.

As for a jury convicting him, who knows, if it even got as far as a jury trial. Juries do strange things. Jury selection might be a real bitch…

It’s hard to imagine that real law enforcement isn’t hot on WM’s trail in any case.

But thank dog for DBH, protecting us from evil.

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[QUOTE=BKR;2830502]Maybe in New Jersey…?

Arrest warrant is order from a judge to arrest the person…doesn’t mention that said person should turn themselves in, in fact, I’ve never seen one (In Idaho at least) that orders the accused to do anything.[/QUOTE]

Not orders the person to turn themselves in, but there are a lot of laws in many places that will criminalize the behavior of people avoiding arrest warrants they know about.

It does vary between jurisdictions but MOST places have additional laws in place when someone is a FUGITIVE. War Machine is currently a fugitive. He didn’t bail on some parking tickets, he allegedly nearly murdered Christy Mack.

There is arrest warrant, and then there is “outstanding arrest warrant”, ie one not served to the individual (as is often the case with fugitives). When you know an arrest warrant is out for you, and you do certain things to avoid capture, you’re considered a fugitive and MANY laws kick in.

Intentionally evading law enforcement can be a crime in a number of ways (esp when it comes to the vehicle code of many states…it’s illegal from a MV POV to run from cops in a car when you know you have a warrant out for you etc…in CA you can get a felony for reckless evasion etc).

If you cross state borders to escape a state law enforcement, you can end up violating federal law too.

In the laws the two words “willfully” and “purposefully” come into play a lot. If you willfully and purposefully evade law enforcement (with a car, crossing borders, using an accomplice, etc), chances are you are breaking some law and when the LEF finally catch you, a lot of the charges they pile on are going to say “willfully and purposefully”.

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Seeing as how DBH Is involved, and Andrew Luster was his big break, something else is that if and when War Machine is apprehended…his fugitive status may affect later court decisions. Simply put, avoiding the outstanding warrant for your arrest may cause the court to tell you later on: “Fuck you, buddy”.

For instance, Andrew Luster appealed his convictions for serial rape, but they were all denied because he spent 6 months hiding in Mexico (before being caught by Dog and hauled back across the border).

http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/03-854.htm

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[QUOTE=BKR;2830548]What, it might be about publicity? The thought never occurred to me…[/QUOTE]

I know, right?? DBH doesn’t at all, even a little, teeny tiny bit look like a shameless self-promoter and glory hound.

Although, it does make me wonder if his celebrity status makes him better or worse at his job. Okay, they can see you coming a mile away (so possibly a liability), but how many people would be willing to rat a person out just so that they get to talk to a Real Life Ceeeeelebrity?

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Does it make any difference that it is like 7 arrest warrants for War Machine and not just one?

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[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;2830552]Not orders the person to turn themselves in, but there are a lot of laws in many places that will criminalize the behavior of people avoiding arrest warrants they know about.

It does vary between jurisdictions but MOST places have additional laws in place when someone is a FUGITIVE. War Machine is currently a fugitive. He didn’t bail on some parking tickets, he allegedly nearly murdered Christy Mack.

There is arrest warrant, and then there is “outstanding arrest warrant”, ie one not served to the individual (as is often the case with fugitives). When you know an arrest warrant is out for you, and you do certain things to avoid capture, you’re considered a fugitive and MANY laws kick in.

Intentionally evading law enforcement can be a crime in a number of ways (esp when it comes to the vehicle code of many states…it’s illegal from a MV POV to run from cops in a car when you know you have a warrant out for you etc…in CA you can get a felony for reckless evasion etc).

If you cross state borders to escape a state law enforcement, you can end up violating federal law too.

In the laws the two words “willfully” and “purposefully” come into play a lot. If you willfully and purposefully evade law enforcement (with a car, crossing borders, using an accomplice, etc), chances are you are breaking some law and when the LEF finally catch you, a lot of the charges they pile on are going to say “willfully and purposefully”.[/QUOTE]

We are not talking about eluding, felony or otherwise, in a vehicle or on foot, etc etc., or being a fugitive. WM has multiple arrest warrants out of Clark County Nevada. If he shows up in Bonners Ferry, Idaho gets pulled over on a traffic stop in the construction zone on the south hill of HWY 95, the officer/deputy/trooper will run him NCIC, his wanted status will get relayed from dispatch, and he will be arrested.

The court will assign a CIVIL case number to his case as a FUGITIVE TO IDAHO…that’s not a special crime in Idaho. He can waive extradition or not, will get an initial appearance in front of the local Magistrate Judge. If he doesn’t waive extradition, he can hire an attorney or apply for a public defender. Otherwise, Clark County, Nevada is advised to come pick his ass up ASAP or otherwise arrange for transport back to Nevada.

We get a lot of “fugitives to Idaho”, and I’ve never heard anything about them being pursued for crossing state lines. I’ve never seen the local prosecutor go after any of our “fugitives from Idaho” with Federal law, or of the Feds prosecuting for that. Now, if they are wanted for some sort of US Code Felony,that might be different.

Having an outstanding arrest warrant isn’t any different than having an arrest warrant…if it’s not served, it’s outstanding. Once it’s served, it’s not outstanding.

I found this bit of info…I’m not chasing it any further at this point. Could well apply to WM, although he is not accused of committing a Federal crime.
http://www.shouselaw.com/nevada/federal-fugitive-laws.html

Here is the US Code…
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1073

So the Feds have to pursue him if this law applies.

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[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;2830553]Seeing as how DBH Is involved, and Andrew Luster was his big break, something else is that if and when War Machine is apprehended…his fugitive status may affect later court decisions. Simply put, avoiding the outstanding warrant for your arrest may cause the court to tell you later on: “Fuck you, buddy”.

For instance, Andrew Luster appealed his convictions for serial rape, but they were all denied because he spent 6 months hiding in Mexico (before being caught by Dog and hauled back across the border).

http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/03-854.htm[/QUOTE]

I’m no attorney, but I’d say highly unlikely in the case of WM. The right of appeal isn’t given up because you FTA for a pre trial conference if you are out on bond.

Once convicted, that might change, but like I said, I’m not an attorney. The Nevada law I looked up in my last post had something about post-conviction fugitives.

WM has multiple arrest warrants. Presumably the issuing court (or the sheriff, who sets extradition here) set extradition to at least “surrounding states”, possibly Western States or entire US. I don’t see anything special about WM case, other than the publicity to make him some sort of special fugitive.

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[QUOTE=goodlun;2830565]Does it make any difference that it is like 7 arrest warrants for War Machine and not just one?[/QUOTE]

I don’t think so…the main deal is to catch him and prosecute the crimes he is accused of on the warrants. That’s bad enough. If some sort of additional fugitive law (from Nevada or Federal) applies, they might tack that on for good measure. If the prosecutor wants too…

He needs to hire an attorney and turn himself in…

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[QUOTE=BKR;2830573]
He needs to hire an attorney and turn himself in…[/QUOTE]
If you seen some of his past tweets this doesn’t seem to be a very likely outcome.
https://twitter.com/WarMachine170

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[QUOTE=goodlun;2830575]If you seen some of his past tweets this doesn’t seem to be a very likely outcome.
https://twitter.com/WarMachine170[/QUOTE]

I agree… he’s delusional. DBH had better be very, very careful if he plans on really pursuing the guy. If he manages to get well armed…

Felony take-down is serious stuff…

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[QUOTE=BKR;2830576]I agree… he’s delusional. DBH had better be very, very careful if he plans on really pursuing the guy. If he manages to get well armed…

Felony take-down is serious stuff…[/QUOTE]

One thing I will give DBH despite all the pageantry and camp, he is actually rather experienced and good at the whole felony take-down thing.

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Regardless of the laws/procedures in Idaho, it’s still very possible he’s broken a number of sexual assault laws (and there are Federal ones), and extremely possible the FBI is looking for him (which is why Dog wants to find him first, the FBI will pay him for it).

Andrew Luster in addition to breaking the state sexual assault laws broke this Federal law (which in turn changed many state laws).

http://www.justice.gov/ag/readingroom/drugcrime.htm

It turns out when it comes to sadistic sexual assault and predators moving state to state uncaptured…the Feds do take an interest. And, later on what you did to make it difficult for law enforcement can and will be used against you in court.

The California Court of Appeal refused the appeal his attorneys filed on his behalf, ruling that as a fugitive from justice, Luster had flouted the court’s authority and had thus forfeited his right to appeal. The California Supreme Court and the United States Supreme Court later refused to overturn this ruling

Personally I want Dog to find him first.

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http://www.shouselaw.com/arrest-warrants.html#happens
This of course applies to CA.
Under the
What Happens to My California Arrest Warrant if I Leave the State or Country?

If you know that you are being sought by the courts and you flee, you will be considered a “fugitive from justice”. This is the case even if you think that you are innocent of any and all charges. Fugitives are subject to extradition regardless of why they left the state.

With proper citing
26Tobin v. Casaus, (1954) 128 Cal.App.2d 588 (“One who, with knowledge that he is being sought pursuant to court process, absents himself or flees, is a fugitive from justice. ( People v. Lee Nam Chin, 166 Cal. 570 [137 P. 917].) That he believes himself to be innocent does not alter the fugitive status, which is achieved by his refusal to submit to judicial process.”)

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[QUOTE=goodlun;2830578]One thing I will give DBH despite all the pageantry and camp, he is actually rather experienced and good at the whole felony take-down thing.[/QUOTE]

Sort of…the one’s I’ve seen aren’t things you’d want to do armed only with a TASER and a lot of attitude.

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[QUOTE=BKR;2830548] He’s out walking around now, which is a lot more than one can say for a lot of people who went into the Mexican “justice” system. [/QUOTE]
Ironically from jumping bail himself.

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http://www.bjpenn.com/war-machine-caught-arrested-in-simi-valley-california/

A week long man-hunt ended today when local authorities picked up War Machine at an Extended Stay Motel in Simi, Valley, California.
Dog The Bounty Hunter was not on the scene.
From KTLA:
A former Simi Valley resident, Koppenhaver was found at the Extended Stay America Hotel located at 2498 Stearns St., just off the 118 Freeway (map), according to the Simi Valley Police Department.
Inside the room was “a small quantity of cash and some pizza,” a police news release stated.

Well that ended anti-climatic like.
I suppose that is a good thing.
Damn you Dog, why couldn’t you get there before the cops and provide us with a little more entertainment why WHY!

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Looks like the police may have dropped the ball on this one.
Or the neighbors are full of shit.

http://www.mmamania.com/2014/8/15/6007819/nbc-video-report-police-hung-up-on-neighbor-saving-christy-mack-allowed-war-machine-escape-mma

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He’s been apprehended

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2726316/US-marshals-capture-MMA-fighter-Jon-Koppenhaver-stabbed-girlfriend-ruptured-liver-horrific-assault.html

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Filed under the heading of “What? No one saw this coming?”

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http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/8/16/6024419/police-hung-up-on-christy-macks-neighbor-delayed-response-allowed-war

Not a good look, 911.