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[QUOTE=Kintanon;2527735]Now I try to help other people avoid those same kind of mistakes. You on the other hand seem hell bent on trying to support a system of training that has consistently been revealed as a failure.[/QUOTE]

OK little trolly troll, I’ll type this as monosyllabically as possible as you can maybe grasp it. I’m not optimistic.

I used taijutsu in numerous street fights. How many? I have no idea. Fifty when I was a bouncer I’d guess. Never any weapons minus a firearm pointed at me across a parking lot. Most of them were drunk and untrained brawlers with a history of causing trouble. Some were surely on drugs. Many were gangbangers. I was out of shape at the time, I’m not a very large guy, and so the vast majority were stronger or bigger than I am. I was winded most fights because of my abysmal cardiovascular shape. I never once got injured.

Before using it professionally, I was in a few school yard scraps growing up, and three come to mind. In none of those events was I ever hurt, and one involved a pencil someone was trying to stab me with.

Therefore your assumption that all people who practice taijutsu are unable to use it to properly defend themselves is either completely flawed, I’m lying, or I’m some golden exception to every rule.

No, I’m not super tough. I could easily lose many fights and would have if not for a lot of luck and careful opponent selection. You make assumptions based on no personal experience in the x-kans from Youtube videos. You’re what I affectionately call an idiot. It’s OK though, we all can’t be smart, we need manual laborers too; or people who happen to pass an IT course at a crappy college and then sit on their butts telling even dumber morons how to make their CD-ROM work, as the case may be.

Why is it always the fat guys who make stuff like that?

[QUOTE=antiherozero;2527759]…Therefore your assumption that all people who practice taijutsu are unable to use it to properly defend themselves is either completely flawed, I’m lying, or I’m some golden exception to every rule[/QUOTE]
who assumed that? Some arts are more effective than others. That’s not to say anything “can’t be used”…but could that same person more effectively use another art/style?

You’re what I affectionately call an idiot. It’s OK though, we all can’t be smart, we need manual laborers too; or people who happen to pass an IT course at a crappy college and then sit on their butts telling even dumber morons how to make their CD-ROM work, as the case may be.
What a tool. There’s too much fail in that post, and your tldr rants to comment on…but the tenor of your language is shocking…

I wish this would really happen:
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If only your post was that cool.

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Okay, whatever. You’re a badass.

Tell me why I should give a fuck, shithead.

The LARPer vs. the Metrosexual Gladiator:

Hello Sports Fans,

Most of you would call me a LARPer because I prefer to primarily train in scenario-based modern weapon and group-defense-based martial arts. I, on the other hand, think of most of you as being the new WWF fans, who believe they can own anybody because they’ve seen their favorite wrestlers and practiced their moves.

We essentially have two extreme idiots at work in the “martial arts for real self-defense” world.

First, we have the true LARPer, who practices a traditional style without resistance using antiquated weapons, but who also believes his training is perfectly acceptable for a modern fight. He likes costumes and renaissance fairs and needs a friend. He is easy to make fun of but sad, and usually doesn’t go running around screaming about how much of pussies everyone who doesn’t do what he is doing is.

Then we have the sports fan, who thinks his little tournament world with no weapons and one opponent is the ultimate path to self-defense training. He believes all the videos of people in controlled competitions using his style to defeat other people of lesser styles proves his dominance in the food chain. He claims that you can’t defend against weapons unarmed, or that his training prepares him to just add in weapons on-the-fly because it’s innate and anyone can use a brick or a club. He also claims that one person cannot defend against multiple opponents, and if he gets into a wrestling match on the ground, he’ll always have a friend there to make sure someone doesn’t kick him or bludgeon him to death. He is a narcissist and tends to think his dominance in the world is predetermined because his middle class mommy breastfed him too long. He has no idea that most people hate him, and he shouts from the rooftops at how great his style is and how gay everyone else is.

They’re both delusional. This community is plum full of the metrosexual gladiators, who are so much more deserving of the ridicule.

What does the military and LEO professional use in their training, battle tested every single day? They field test their weapons expensively. They clean their gun after every use and after predetermined amounts of time depending on the climate, they cycle their ammo through several magazines so as to maintain proper magazine spring tension over time, they only use factory new ammo, and they learn to break down those weapons and clear jams in the field. They also learn how to take guns safely away from people. They treat their firearms like they are always loaded, and before taking one into the field check the magazine and the chamber every single time because those procedures are proven to keep people in their careers alive.

So, if this sport monkey no weapons training required attitude is the ultimate in self-defense, why don’t the professionals in the military and LEO communities around the world jump on board and stop wasting all that time with pesky weapons training?

In my experience, outside of the octagon, everyone that fights you on the street or in combat only does so when they think they have a clear advantage. They attack you with more people, with weapons, and if they see you have a weapon too, they bring a bigger one. This is excluding the crazies and substance abusers, who frequently will attack someone when they don’t outnumber them or have a bigger weapon.

So congrats sports fans, for being just as stupid as the LARPers, but twice as loud, angry, and opinionated. Your only redeeming quality is that you often have the decency to wear your Tap Out T-shirts and sport your beefcake necks advertising your training to anyone paying attention, who then can make sure to get a bigger metrosexual gladiator, a weapon, or more friends available if a confrontation with you becomes likely.

Posturing In My Speedo,
Antiherozero

No offense to your excellent trolljob, but with the other stuff going on with bullshido at the moment you kind of read like, “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain”.

It’s only a troll if you’re trying to hide antagonizing people. I was pretty up front about it.

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Therefore your assumption that all people who practice taijutsu are unable to use it to properly defend themselves is either completely flawed, I’m lying, or I’m some golden exception to every rule.[/QUOTE]

Reading comprehension is clearly not your strong suite. I’m not making any assumptions about all people who practice taijutsu. I’m evaluating the available evidence. The available evidence says that what you are espousing is not particularly effective in unscripted combat scenarios. If you have some additional contradictory evidence to offer that is other than anecdotal then I’ll be happy to entertain it. Until then you’re just another LARPing pajama dancer as far as we know.

[QUOTE=antiherozero;2527831]Hello Sports Fans,
Most of you would call me a LARPer because I prefer to primarily train in scenario-based modern weapon and group-defense-based martial arts.[/QUOTE]
LARP = live action role play. Is this what you’re doing? Also, most of the posters here will never know you exist. You give yourself too much credit. You’re simply trolling the comedy section.

I, on the other hand, think of most of you as being the new WWF fans, who believe they can own anybody because they’ve seen their favorite wrestlers and practiced their moves.

You do know that there are a lot of members here, that do the same training you claim to. You’re flailing away at a strawman that doesn’t exist. This is not any one kind of place, and there are many sections. Don’t get them confused.

[QUOTE=Kintanon;2527843]If you have some additional contradictory evidence to offer that is other than anecdotal then I’ll be happy to entertain it. Until then you’re just another LARPing pajama dancer as far as we know.[/QUOTE]

Ah, finally, the “you’re lying” defense. Because you’re incapable of being wrong. nod It’s OK, dumb people always assume they’re brilliant. Take solace in the knowledge that you’re flawed in very common and unoriginal ways.

antihero: It’s not a case of lying or not. It’s the difference between tangible and anecdotal evidence. Only tangible evidence is useful to us, despite anecdotal evidence being useful to you.

I don’t read threads I just comment

[QUOTE=RegularGuy;2526924]Trained in Aikido since 1978…tested it out against Karate, Tae Kwon Do, wrestling, a football player, gave a friend a crow bar after 6 months in aikido and had him go after me 110%. Have had people try to attack me on the street, sometimes 3-6 at a time, a man with a gun. Most of the time I just smiled & they ran. The stuff worked. No complaints…[/QUOTE]

I haven’t begun reading this beast of a thread yet, but I commend you on a much subtler trolling of this place than most are capable of. Thank you for getting through it without posting a picture from 4chan or a Youtube video.

Did you really have a friend go at you with a crowbar? That takes balls, but I suspect it’s just a fiction to harvest the troll dust necessary for your trap.

Sadly, when I was twelve, I made my friend (who went on to become a cop) shoot my compound bow at my chest because I saw it done in The Last Dragon and wanted to see if I could dodge an arrow. I did, but I never made that mistake again. That whole experience really puckered my little corn hole.

[QUOTE=Kintanon;2527029]Where would you suggest I go to search for that evidence? I’ve had encounters with people who have trained in Aikido for a decade or more and none of them had the kind of qualities which you ascribe to them.[/QUOTE]

Qualities? The ability to survive crowbars and 3-6 attackers? Man, I gotta go the one of these “throw downs” everyone keeps touting, purely as a spectator. I’m not that bad ass.

I can’t care about yet another ninja-duplicate thread right now.

[QUOTE=antiherozero;2527848]Ah, finally, the “you’re lying” defense. Because you’re incapable of being wrong. nod It’s OK, dumb people always assume they’re brilliant. Take solace in the knowledge that you’re flawed in very common and unoriginal ways.[/QUOTE]

It’s not that there is any way to prove that you are lying, it’s just that you are telling stories on the internetz, where anyone can be whoever they want. For example: I’m Rick James, bitch! Prove me wrong. I also once kicked Chuck Norris’ ass. You see what I mean? The burden of proof for your claims lies on you, people are going to be skeptical otherwise as they have every right to be since people are constantly making shit up on the interwebz.

The only details you have provided so far regard your training methods, which apparently consist of you doing kata while someone repeatedly kicks you in the nutsack. That sounds like something out of “Beavis and Butthead” or “Jackass.”

[QUOTE=Colin;2527853]antihero: It’s not a case of lying or not. It’s the difference between tangible and anecdotal evidence. Only tangible evidence is useful to us, despite anecdotal evidence being useful to you.[/QUOTE]

Well I can’t very well show the video catalog of my numerous street fights with the local yokels. I didn’t have the foresight to bring a camera. What evidence would satisfy you and every other troll in Bullshido? If anyone wants to come to Seattle and challenge me to a street fight I suppose we can do that, but I’ll probably just shoot you. You guys have studied martial arts and might be dangerous. I’d fear for my life and shit, so ya know, it’d be justifiable.

[QUOTE=antiherozero;2527873]Well I can’t very well show the video catalog of my numerous street fights with the local yokels. I didn’t have the foresight to bring a camera. What evidence would satisfy you and every other troll in Bullshido? If anyone wants to come to Seattle and challenge me to a street fight I suppose we can do that, but I’ll probably just shoot you. You guys have studied martial arts and might be dangerous. I’d fear for my life and shit, so ya know, it’d be justifiable.[/QUOTE]

No, but you can take video of your training methods. Or meet up to spar with someone. I’m sure there’s a Bullshido member in your area that’ll agree to whatever rule set you have in mind.

[QUOTE=wetware;2527876]No, but you can take video of your training methods. Or meet up to spar with someone. I’m sure there’s a Bullshido member in your area that’ll agree to whatever rule set you have in mind.[/QUOTE]

Hum? As tempting as shooting and/or maiming some of you might be, I’m pretty sure all I’d have to show for it would be a lot of court appointments, jail time, and momentary fame here that would be long forgotten once I was released.

[QUOTE=Colin;2527879]It says in your style field that you do Judo. Judo advancement requires competition. Do you have any video, or other evidence of your Judo competitions? I’m sure that this would satisfy plenty of people.[/QUOTE]

Nope, it was in my childhood. I never really care for the tournaments and just wanted to train. I only did one because I was pressured into it. I was a yellow belt and the only competitor to nearly beat a brown belt who was dominating. I had to learn the counter to his one very well-refined technique off the mat and fortunately it worked and I was the only one he couldn’t throw. He eventually beat me on the ground by escaping a choke I had placed him in and almost won in the time allotted, but his choke was one I didn’t have the training to escape. I don’t think he liked me very much after that, so we didn’t exchange greeting cards or anything for you guys to vet me through.

I could show you a copy of the police report for one of the people I took down in the security world, assuming I had one. I don’t. I’m sure there’s about a 5% I could find someone capable enough to print said report at the court if I lived in Nevada still and made a trip in-person.

OK, how bout this. I’ll log-in with other account names and type the things my coworkers and friends were likely to say in support of this information when these things happened in their presence? Deal? I’d get them to sign affidavits to show everyone, but I like them and don’t want them to think I’m crazy.

[QUOTE=antiherozero;2527895]Hum? As tempting as shooting and/or maiming some of you might be, I’m pretty sure all I’d have to show for it would be a lot of court appointments, jail time, and momentary fame here that would be long forgotten once I was released.
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Riiight. You’re certainly the only one who has training and knows your way around a firearm.

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Nope, it was in my childhood.

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OK, how bout this. I’ll log-in with other account names and type the things my coworkers and friends were likely to say in support of this information when these things happened in their presence? Deal? I’d get them to sign affidavits to show everyone, but I like them and don’t want them to think I’m crazy.[/QUOTE]

So essentially, you have no evidence of any kind that you’re willing to produce and you expect us to take everything you say at face value.

Pretty standard for Ninjers, Aikidonuts, and Chunners. We’re required to provide proof that whatever it is they like doesn’t work. When we provide a bunch of videos they find a bunch of reasons why THAT evidence doesn’t count. Then they expect us to accept all of their anecdotal stories as gospel truth or we’re being disrespectful/mean/stupid/whatever.
If I didn’t know better I’d say this guy and RegularGuy from the Aikido thread were the same person just repping a different fetish.