Yes…now leave us alone.
[QUOTE=C.Aiden;2665802]All of us know about the movie IP man.Was that a different category of martial arts or was that a just movie chracter.[/QUOTE]
You’re not related to this guy are you?
[QUOTE=BrotherDaniel;2665849]when i said Goons i didnt mean it in a bad way. i salute all of those guys in that youtuube i watched.
We do train like those guys, and im sure you have good reason to doubt me as i train WC lol
fair enough i suppose, thanks for your thoughts and pointing me in the direction of that clip.[/QUOTE]
You’re going to have to back some of what you say up. So far your relationship with this site has been claiming you and your school do essentially everything right. It smacks of you thinking you’re here to educate and it comes across passive aggressive.
We’ve done 2vs1 with Freestyle Kickboxing Rules, and 2vs1 Submission Grappling, never done it in full MMA sparring. It was mostly a conditioning/aggressiveness thing, we don’t really do multiple attacker scenario training.
There is a reason cardio is rule #1. Run away, or just give them your wallet. Or go get a Concealed Carry license, that’s effective self defense for the modern age.
IMO, it’s best to remember, that if it’s not for sport, there are few valid reasons to fight that don’t invlolve your life being in danger.
[QUOTE=BrotherDaniel;2665836]Rene, Ive just watched the 50min youtube of that episode of fightquest, and i enjoyed it.
we do train just like that, the part in the park was identical to the scenarios we do.
The only problem we have is they have alot more GOONS that enjoy that type of training, sadly only a handfull at the class i train are prepared to train like that.
I liked the bullring idea and the calling of numbers.[/QUOTE]
So you train like that, but only have a handful of people in class who are willing to train like that equals you don’t train like that.
It’s like being in a martial arts school that has THE best sparring but only a couple people like to spar, everyone else just works on their forms.
See what I did their?
Just a movie, chubs.
[QUOTE=Audio Goose;2665903]Really? How do you know? Someone here probably hasn’t seen it.[/QUOTE]
I’ve only just seen it last week. I can confirm, however, that IP man is a just movie chracter.
Hope that helps.
[QUOTE=thrutch;2665921]I’ve only just seen it last week. I can confirm, however, that IP man is a just movie chracter.
Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]
no he isn’t
He seemed pretty just to me.
[QUOTE=thrutch;2665924]He seemed pretty just to me.[/QUOTE]
The movie is a fictionalised account of IP Mans life, so I guess you could argue both ways, the IP Man in the movie is for the most part fictional, it is however based on a real person
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Erm, OK.
You might want to read what I posted again though.
[QUOTE=thrutch;2665929]Erm, OK.
You might want to read what I posted again though. ;)[/QUOTE]
good point my brain filtered out the noise and constructed a decent sentence
[QUOTE=Rene “Zendokan” Gysenbergs;2665823]If your school trains like the Kajuke?bo in Fight Quest (THE INFERIOR SERIES), you would have a point. So does your school trains like that (vids or it doesn’t)[/QUOTE]
By the power of Duff, I have altered your remarks to be more accurate. No need to thank me, it is all in a days work for those of us who follow the Tao of Size and A Football Background.
IP man is my SysAdmin.
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When I was getting my KM on we did those type of drills a lot. A lot of fun in a controlled environment anyway. It was described as situational awareness and getting used to fighting tired after an adrenaline dump. I saw it as conditioning and a welcome change up to keep the class interesting. Sometimes they’d have the attackers try to grapple you, sometimes with just strikes, and other times the attackers all had pads so you could respond with full force. Once, you were given a pad to hold in one arm like it was your child or something and you had to defend against 4 with one arm. Pretty sure I remember being ready to relinquish the baby after about 3 minutes. This was not done during regular sparring though.
I’m not a great fan of multiple attacker scenarios. They tend to look nothing like real multiple attacker scenarios becouse they’re so hard to train with any level of realism.
Just keep it simple and get good at decking one guy, this and a level head and I’m sure most people will be fine. I can’t remember the full quote but it goes something like “To beat a group, make sure you’re tougher than all of them.”
[QUOTE=BearHammer;2665951]Once, you were given a pad to hold in one arm like it was your child or something and you had to defend against 4 with one arm. Pretty sure I remember being ready to relinquish the baby after about 3 minutes. This was not done during regular sparring though.[/QUOTE]
Ha! My teacher actually has some of the advanced guys drill like this in FMA. The idea is at the more advanced levels you train with something in each hand- a sword and dagger, etc, and the fake baby is a dynamic they play with sometimes.
Used to do Multiple people sparring in my old TKD school, but in those cases, no one was ever grabbing each other. If someone grabbed me, I was screwed.
It was good sparring, and if ANYTHING it taught me that you obviously want everyone infront of you, so you move and use footwork to make that happen.
It also showed me that 3 v 1 … you were pretty screwed regardless of striking / grappling, etc. Obviously you’ll fair better than someone not trained, but in a REAL fight people are surely coming to take your head off.
In other words, nice to know a few things, but really if this is some sort of “SEE MMA IS FAILZ” thread, then go fuck yourself and stop wasting our time.
Since no one appears to have said it yet, I skimmed after the dead horse started walking around, learn how to fight ONE person before worrying about multiples.
Is it fun? Yes.
Does it have some value? Sure.
Is it better than training one on one? Nope.
I’ll also warn you that other people on this side will ask for vid proof if you come over as training the “one real” Wing Chun/Tsun style.
Too late:
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=115178
Oh, and please don’t think you are slick because you “said” you were done with the other thread… This new thread is a complete spinoff from the other discussion. You raised the multiple opponent scenario in that thread as well.
Don’t be surprised if they are merged.
Yes, I read the other thread after my last response in this thread and two hours later I woke up again from my facepalm.
@BrotherDaniel, here’s some good advice from me: go enter a Sanda/Sanshou competition to test your skills.
Don’t give me any bullshit about that it’s impossible to compare street vs sport, because
a) the adrenaline dump you will experience in both cases will paralyse you instantly if you haven’t experienced and dealt with it before.
b) trying to put a vinger in small target like an eye will not be possible IF you can’t put a fist in a face first.
Competitions will give you a controlled environment to get that experience.