I can’t speak that much for grappling since I am more experienced in stand up (though lot of the general ideas translate also to the ground game) but usually you watch the person against a weaker and a stronger opponent (if you want to be thorough do it with task, such as play only “defensive/offensive” slow/fast) and find out what he is doing good and where he as gaps (== major issues such as problems with certain basics or big weaknesses/shortcomings in those).
Then you usually work on the gaps, incorporating his strengths and attributes (strength size speed etc.) thereby developing “his own game” (as you noticed yourself, there is no point in copying ones game, no matter if it is stand up or ground).
Depending on how good his understanding is, you can discuss your “findings” with him or you just tailor a training plan for him.
I hope this helps, again, I am looking at this from a stand up angle with a little knowledge of the ground game.
This is where you should have stopped right here. Stop trying to contribute to technical discussions about grappling. You are a beginner and so far have proved nothing beyond your own lack of experience in this area. Your vague advice is not required here.
If you make another post in DHS in the future, it had better be a damn good one, otherwise you’ll be gone.
As I understood/stand the op, he was asking about teaching privates, not about a specific technique, hence I replied. I gave him general outlines of what he could do during the private, those apply for almost everything, from StandUp (I have been/am teaching individuals and small groups since I am not allowed to teach classes over 5 people due to regulations in Germany) to even freaking Esports(and yeah I have been a coach there too). And if you, due to what ever reason don’t do something similar like I explained (even the people where I trained did that) then okay you moved my post for a reason (I would like to hear that said reason).
But if you just moved it because I don’t hold rank in grappling, though my “advice” is still valid, then well… you are smart enough to figure that.
When Jack and jnp say something even remotely negative about someone you have an attitude problem. These are two posters that go out of their way to stay neutral.
Now, you have Ming saying something about your attitude? Wow.
The thread is about grappling-specific private lessons. Like Snake said, your post was not bad for another forum.
As for locking the thread, there are non-Judo, non-BJJ people with legit things to say in DHS. It’s just rare.
Personally, I know that I’ve started probably 3x as many replies in DHS than I’ve actually finished. It’s very common that halfway through typing I’ll realize I have nothing to add, since it’s a discussion between people with several years of specifically applicable grappling training. Ever notice how quiet DHS is? That’s a good thing.
Without answering for admin and going by memory, Goju-Joe stated “he was thinking about taking privates” and then stated why he was and what his intentions were from learning them, thereby giving a prospective students insight.
If you had privates in NY, if you stated your opinion, what was valuable, what you learned, what you wished your ranking instructor had covered but didn’t…these are things that probably would have given ‘LEF an insight into what he should structure his first private around, as his student gave the vague "EVERYTHING’ for his answer.
The private I had was my going against the trainer and he assessing my game (like I said) he then showed me what he thought I could to in those situations where I was lacking…
I could tell you that he was going over my defense against a standing opponent (how to regain guard against a standing opponent) and my work on “stretching out your opponent” when he is in close guard in order to better go for subs. But that would have been of 0 help for the OP.
Notice the other two posts are detailing what the question entails.
You are telling him how to teach. Huge difference.
If you need a simpler explanation
One reply says find out what the student wants. The other post states what a student may want.
Your posts tells a teacher with more experience than you, how to teach. Something he knows how to do already. That comes off as arrogant. You sitting here rationalizing your post and missing the point makes it worse.
@IFF, I am not telling him how to teach, I am giving him a suggestion, that is a huge difference (well it is in my book). He was asking for something like this.
If he wants to cull it well fine…
There usually is a difference between rolling/sparring free or with an objective, while rolling free, you automaticly play to your strengths or your opponent is not able to explore/exploit them and hence it is harder to detect the said gaps. But if you roll with a task (or your training partner does), that changes. Also you detect mistakes in techniques “from the outside” but if you have also the feedback from the other guy (usually the “better guy”) then you can fit your observation with what he said/did.
This might be similar to what the op said he was going to do (any maybe he would have done what I was suggesting, but he didn’t wrote it down) and hence I thought it was good to have it covered.
Now explain how what you stated is any different than what he already typed.
I hope you misunderstood the question.
Right now it sounds like you felt it was necessary, as you being a noob to grappling, to explain free rolling to a purple belt.
This might be similar to what the op said he was going to do (any maybe he would have done what I was suggesting, but he didn’t wrote it down) and hence I thought it was good to have it covered.
You felt it necessary to educate a guy, who stated he is an assistant instructor, with over a year experience running classes in grappling, and a purple belt in BJJ some advice on teaching grappling?
You know the thing you are new to called grappling.
If you want to twist my words fine, go ahead. And I know you will quote this (or other posts), down to a single word if you have to and nitpick something you will use to support “your view” , no matter if it was intentionally in my post or not. Do it, but I think this not going to help anybody or solve anything…
Something for you to consider though. (And I am not necessarily talking about the op)
You can be a good player in what ever sport/MA and yet lack the ability to teach.
You can have the knowledge and good intentions and yet lack the methodology of bringing those across
You can be teaching for years and yet not be a good teacher
I am not saying any of this fits the op, but it might! I don’t know the op and I think almost nobody here does, so we just can assume.
So now try to put aside your opinion you formed so far, just walk with me here and look at it.
The op, is teaching and has experience there (teaching a given curriculum) but he is going to do something new, something he hasn’t done so far(giving a private) and feels a little insecure/unsure about doing it. (Otherwise he would not ask for help, right?)
Okay since I have never seen him teach and don’t know what he knows about teaching and this thread will be read by others too, I give my suggestion, for him (to maybe just visualize what he knows, re insure him in his doing, add a tiny detail or just put in some “different point of view” since I have a different background) and for others(who might one day will use this or dismiss it because they know better), to hock onto or what ever they like to do with it.
There is no arrogance involved in this, none whatsoever and I was on topic with my post, despite the fact that it was not “grappling only” or “grappling specific”.
F4n4n, you seriously need to learn when to shut the hell up. I have no intention of justifying my actions to every poster who posts in DHS out of turn, but since previously warning you wasn’t enough, I guess I’ll give it one more try.
How many times do I have to say it? Here, I’ll shout it for you,
DHS is not the place for general advice.
DHS is not fair. If you post in it as a beginner grappler, your post had better be laser focused and dead on topic. More experienced grapplers have more latitude. So members like Omega, Sambosteve or JohnnyS can essentially post whatever the hell they feel like.
The objective is to encourage seasoned grapplers to hang out in DHS while novice input will either contribute productively or be removed.
One last thing, the more you fuck up in DHS, the shorter my patience gets. That’s why 3moose1 is currently banned from DHS. I’m sorely tempted to ban you right now for being such an argumentative prick in this thread, but I pride myself on being fair, so I won’t do it. Fair warning though, you are down to your last chance. Post in DHS again at your own peril.
Megalef has been posting here for years you douche. Just because you don’t know him doesn’t mean we don’t. Don’t be such a self-important prick.