Baby Mama Drama

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First of all, you should have have more than visitation, you should have joint custody. Although there is this “tender years” doctrine bs all over the place in the family courts, there is virtually no evidence that overnights, even with infants, are bad for the kids. Fathers are every bit as important as mothers. You should have your kid at least weekends, if not half the time. Mayb e you don’t want that, which calls into question a lot of stuff and I don’t want to insult you.

Second, you will be paying child support. If your baby mama is a useless, stupid, ignorant, lazy person who can’t get a job, you will be paying it until the kid is 18. If she has full custody, you pay 100%. This is often why scumbag fathers want custody, so they don’t have to pay support. NOt because they want the kid.

You are in a great situation to have a restraining order placed against you for absolutely nothing. Plus you are into MA, so that double fucks you. Do not be alone with her, meet in public, etc. get witnesses. Be smart.

You will never see another thing in your life more fucked up than the family court. Ever. You will go in there, they have people lined up from here to Hawaii waiting for their 15 minutes and the Judge, who is angry that they got the shittiest assignment in the courts, will be desperately trying to clear their docket of people. There will be no “evidence”, no cross examination. Just your word against their word.

If you are beginning to get a sinking sensation in the center of your stomach, that is your brain beginning to work and tell you how fucked you might be.

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to portray yourself as the best thing for the kid. Repeat the phrase “best interests of my child” and act accordingly.

That will be $300.

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[QUOTE=Devil;2691871]Yeah, you’re confusing the shit out of me. Why would she have to take you to court to say you can’t see the kid? She just tells you. What are you going to do, raid the house commando style and take the kid? That doesn’t mean she’s within her rights but you’ll have to wait for the court to enforce your rights if she plays it that way.

And yeah, I guess you could try the same tactic. Go ahead and see how that works out for you. First, the Sheriff’s department is going to show up at your door and they’re going to be none too pleased about having to deal with this shit. If they don’t take the kid back to her mother right then, the court’s going to give the kid back to her mother when you do get to court. Then they’re going to give you visitation every other weekend and you’re going to be dealing with an enraged ex forever who has 99% of the say-so about what happens in your child’s life.

I don’t really know what to tell you about the lawyer. My advice would be to be hire the best one you can afford if you can afford one at all. If not, find out if you’ll get a court appointed lawyer or whatever. I have no clue.[/QUOTE]

Hmm, I don’t know how better to word my query so you would understand, but I think I got my answer anyway.

And while this site may never have anything to do with a possible custody battle, as far as what I say here being used against me, I want to make it clear that my intentions would never be to try and keep my daughter from her mom. I’m trying very hard to keep this broken family from turning even more into the next episode of Jerry Springer.

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[QUOTE=crappler;2691874]First of all, you should have have more than visitation, you should have joint custody. [/QUOTE]

For the record, when I said visitation every other weekend I meant the father gets to take the kid to his house or wherever every other weekend, not just visitation at the mother’s house.

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[QUOTE=crappler;2691874]First of all, you should have have more than visitation, you should have joint custody. Although there is this “tender years” doctrine bs all over the place in the family courts, there is virtually no evidence that overnights, even with infants, are bad for the kids. Fathers are every bit as important as mothers. You should have your kid at least weekends, if not half the time. Mayb e you don’t want that, which calls into question a lot of stuff and I don’t want to insult you.

Second, you will be paying child support. If your baby mama is a useless, stupid, ignorant, lazy person who can’t get a job, you will be paying it until the kid is 18. If she has full custody, you pay 100%. This is often why scumbag fathers want custody, so they don’t have to pay support. NOt because they want the kid.

You are in a great situation to have a restraining order placed against you for absolutely nothing. Plus you are into MA, so that double fucks you. Do not be alone with her, meet in public, etc. get witnesses. Be smart.

You will never see another thing in your life more fucked up than the family court. Ever. You will go in there, they have people lined up from here to Hawaii waiting for their 15 minutes and the Judge, who is angry that they got the shittiest assignment in the courts, will be desperately trying to clear their docket of people. There will be no “evidence”, no cross examination. Just your word against their word.

If you are beginning to get a sinking sensation in the center of your stomach, that is your brain beginning to work and tell you how fucked you might be.

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to portray yourself as the best thing for the kid. Repeat the phrase “best interests of my child” and act accordingly.

That will be $300.[/QUOTE]

Do you accept food stamps?

But seriously, how could she place a restraining order on me? I haven’t done anything to her or my daughter, never would.

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[QUOTE=jwilde88;2691861]I was under the impression that whatever parent has her at the time can tell the other to fuck off, assuming there is no custody agreement in place. That’s what my question stemmed from. I thought she would have to take me to court before she said I couldn’t see her. I’m pretty sure that’s the case because one of her girlfriends went through this shit while my ex was pregnant and her childs father was keeping her son from her. [/quote] Shit, there is naivete running all through this story. Historically courts loathe to remove kids from their mothers regardless of the situation. As crappler said you are basically screwed.

Edit: Assuming you are correct though, would I have to hire a lawyer or could one be appointed to me? If I have to hire one, should I try for a pro bono lawyer or would that probably just fuck me worse?

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See, guys try to avoid paying money and get screwed when they piss off their girlfriend. I immediately went and put my self on child support. I won’t detail the amount because it tends to upset people. Suffice it to say, like you, people are ignorant of the law. Except for an inflicted administrative raise, I paid the same amount for about 15 years. The one thing I did wrong was not petitioning for joint custody which would have made CS a little lower. Still, I was fine with my small amount.
Best bet is to swallow your pride, smooth things over, get her in a good mood and see if you can get an amicable joint decision. If she decides to fuck you over, you are done. You can’t afford the type of lawyer necessary to get you out of this mess and that is if he could.

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But seriously, how could she place a restraining order on me? I haven’t done anything to her or my daughter, never would.

I can detail horror stories from friends if you like? Again, the child court is set up for women. It is an uphill battle for a man to get anything in court.
Edit LOL@LIAR instead of lawyer.

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Holy shit. I almost wanna cut my dick off, too bad I don’t have a saws all! Am I right??

Well, here’s what I have been doing. We have been on a break for a while before she finally decided she had enough and this whole time I have been keeping records or my paychecks and what I spend my money on, in detail when it comes to money I gave my ex and money spent on my daughter. My dad suggested I keep track of every time I keep my daughter as well.

Is this good, or am I just wasting my pen’s ink?

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[QUOTE=jwilde88;2691881]Holy shit. I almost wanna cut my dick off, too bad I don’t have a saws all! Am I right??

Well, here’s what I have been doing. We have been on a break for a while before she finally decided she had enough and this whole time I have been keeping records or my paychecks and what I spend my money on, in detail when it comes to money I gave my ex and money spent on my daughter. My dad suggested I keep track of every time I keep my daughter as well.

Is this good, or am I just wasting my pen’s ink?

Sent from my BlackBerry 9650 using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]That’s smart. I’ll let the lawyers answer with the facts , but hopefully you kept actual receipts. Your written words mean nothing with out paper to back them up in my experience. Even when I explained that I had helped, the lady asked My ex to back me up. It was extremely irritating. My friend went through some shit and his girl said “No, he never paid me anything” while he was giving her 200 a month. Yep, they hit him with arrears of about 1500-2000 a year. Sorry, it’s been three years since this occurred. Even with detailed records it was basically, “Well, without receipts, you could have written that up last night.” It was put better than that, but that’s what I got from our conversation.

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No, I was dumb and didn’t keep receipts because she was actually civil up until about a week ago, and nothing has been bought for our daughter since then. That’s about to change.

Well, thanks everyone for your experiences and advice. Wish me luck for tomorrow when I go looking for a second job lol.

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[QUOTE=jwilde88;2691877]Do you accept food stamps?

But seriously, how could she place a restraining order on me? I haven’t done anything to her or my daughter, never would.

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You are thinking because you have done nothing wrong and are a good guy that she can’t get a wild hair up her ass, egged on by her most evil vindictive friend, to screw you for daring to say “no” to her about anything. Do not kid yourself. You can have done nothing wrong and end up in a very bad situation very quickly. THings heat up real fast. Trust me. I have done more than a few of these cases. Be incredibly cool, level-headed, and have documentation and witnesses for everything you do.

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[QUOTE=Devil;2691871]Yeah, you’re confusing the shit out of me. Why would she have to take you to court to say you can’t see the kid? She just tells you. What are you going to do, raid the house commando style and take the kid? That doesn’t mean she’s within her rights but you’ll have to wait for the court to enforce your rights if she plays it that way.[/QUOTE]

The hidden subtext is clearly that this woman left jwilde because he’s fucking retarded.

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Let me put it another way. The burden of proof under the DVPA (domestic violence prevention act) which has been adopted in almost every state, is “preponderance of the evidence”. That means it only needs to be more likely than not, in the eyes of the court, that you did what she said. That means these things get granted all the time against people who did absolutely nothing other than fail to buckle when they got threatened. Of course, women get killed all the time by angry men with guns.

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[QUOTE=It is Fake;2691880]Shit, there is naivete running all through this story. Historically courts loathe to remove kids from their mothers regardless of the situation. As crappler said you are basically screwed.

See, guys try to avoid paying money and get screwed when they piss off their girlfriend. I immediately went and put my self on child support. I won’t detail the amount because it tends to upset people. Suffice it to say, like you, people are ignorant of the law. Except for an inflicted administrative raise, I paid the same amount for about 15 years. The one thing I did wrong was not petitioning for joint custody which would have made CS a little lower. Still, I was fine with my small amount.
Best bet is to swallow your pride, smooth things over, get her in a good mood and see if you can get an amicable joint decision. If she decides to fuck you over, you are done. You can’t afford the type of lawyer necessary to get you out of this mess and that is if he could.

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I can detail horror stories from friends if you like? Again, the child court is set up for women. It is an uphill battle for a man to get anything in court.
Edit LOL@LIAR instead of lawyer.[/QUOTE]

There is a bias in favor of women when it comes to custody. But there is a bias in favor of men when it comes to self-employed men and rich men. Two thirds of child support never gets collected.

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This happened to me once in family court. I learned my lesson.

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[QUOTE=crappler;2691896] But there is a bias in favor of men when it comes to self-employed men and rich men.[/quote] I’ll defer to you on this, but he isn’t rich nor are a majority of the men in the US.

Two thirds of child support never gets collected.
I know. I’d bet a large majority would say the were fucked over, through bias, in the courts.

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So has me thining, is it like this in other countries?

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[QUOTE=jwilde88;2691952]So has me thining, is it like this in other countries?

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Well, in Jamaica, you tell a motherfucker about child support and a motherfucker says ‘Yow, da pikni deh nuh have nuttin fi mi. A jacket dat!’, which is to say ‘That child does not even resemble me. That is another mans child. Fuck no you ain’t getting no child support’. And yes, you can be brought to the courts, but what the fuck is the court going to do? Enforce child support? lol. Funny shit. Deadbeat dads all over the motherfucking place. If you don’t want to give your baby mother anything, you don’t have to. Though she may take to the streets and tell everyone you’re a worthless piece of shit, but why would you give 2 fucks?

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[QUOTE=The Question;2691955]Well, in Jamaica, you tell a motherfucker about child support and a motherfucker says ‘Yow, da pikni deh nuh have nuttin fi mi. A jacket dat!’, which is to say ‘That child does not even resemble me. That is another mans child. Fuck no you ain’t getting no child support’. And yes, you can be brought to the courts, but what the fuck is the court going to do? Enforce child support? lol. Funny shit. Deadbeat dads all over the motherfucking place. If you don’t want to give your baby mother anything, you don’t have to. Though she may take to the streets and tell everyone you’re a worthless piece of shit, but why would you give 2 fucks?[/QUOTE]Yes, that happens here as well. The difference here, apparently, is it fucks up your credit and nowadays can fuck up job prospects.

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[QUOTE=It is Fake;2691961]Yes, that happens here as well. The difference here, apparently, is it fucks up your credit and nowadays can fuck up job prospects.[/QUOTE]

Here being the United States, I presume?

Lol. Credit? The fuck is credit? Job prospects? Employers don’t give a fuck if you father of the year or you eat babies. As long as you do the work, or bribe the right people if you’re a higher up.

Also, I hear motherfuckers can suspend your drivers’ license for dodging child support. How true is that shit? If you flee to another country to avoid paying child support, what motherfucking consequencies can the court bring to bear on you?

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[QUOTE=The Question;2691963] Employers don’t give a fuck if you father of the year or you eat babies. [/QUOTE]

They care if they have to garnish your wages to pay child support. That carries administrative costs that are at least somewhat burdensome, especially for small companies. It also exposes them to some liability if they screw up the payments.

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[QUOTE=The Question;2691963]Here being the United States, I presume?

Lol. Credit? The fuck is credit? Job prospects? Employers don’t give a fuck if you father of the year or you eat babies. As long as you do the work, or bribe the right people if you’re a higher up.

Also, I hear motherfuckers can suspend your drivers’ license for dodging child support. How true is that shit? If you flee to another country to avoid paying child support, what motherfucking consequencies can the court bring to bear on you?[/QUOTE]

I don’t see why you couldn’t be extradited for skipping country.

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