I may be prejudiced as an old KK guy, but this looks like the kind of training that teaches kicking pretty well. Any opinions?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PUxVWoFtyAs
Surprised no one commented on this.
And no, you are not being biased. While it is a short clip, it is still excellent. Instead of just demonstrating power kicking, it also teaches how to put together intelligent combos that flow. I like that even in the brief time it covers a “change up pitch” too. Feeds them the low round twice then switches to the axe. Good stuff.
I agree. I don’t speak Japanese, but that’s a pretty sweet little clip. Maybe my favorite part is that some attention is obviously paid to what the pad holder should be doing, which is something some people overlook.
Also, yay ax kick! It’s so brutal and fun. It even has a fun name, at least in English and Korean. The Korean is chik ki cha gi. That’s just fun to say.
I could watch Andy Hug kick all day. Very inspirational.
[QUOTE=RealFolkBlues;2842467]I agree. I don’t speak Japanese, but that’s a pretty sweet little clip. Maybe my favorite part is that some attention is obviously paid to what the pad holder should be doing, which is something some people overlook.
Also, yay ax kick! It’s so brutal and fun. It even has a fun name, at least in English and Korean. The Korean is chik ki cha gi. That’s just fun to say.[/QUOTE]Lulz! That IS fun to say. Not so fun to get hit with though. Andy’s mawashi geri was serious business too.
[QUOTE=surferdude;2842531]Lulz! That IS fun to say. Not so fun to get hit with though. Andy’s mawashi geri was serious business too.[/QUOTE]
See, even the Japanese name is awesome. Also, yeah, that’s a serious kick he’s got there. It’s a fairly dangerous strike they’re demonstrating, as well. On somebody who didn’t see it coming, you’d probably snap their clavicle right in two. And below the clavicle, well…lots of stuff that doesn’t need to get poked with sharp broken bone.
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For clarification - Kyokushin terminology for axe kick is actually uchi/soto oroshi kakato geri; inside or outside descending heel kick.
[QUOTE=silvers_ghost;2842616]For clarification - Kyokushin terminology for axe kick is actually uchi/soto oroshi kakato geri; inside or outside descending heel kick.[/QUOTE]Thanks brudda. Not just for clarifying but educating. I was unfamiliar with what the ax kick is called.
BTW, Mawashi geri is round house kick, RealFolkBlues.
[QUOTE=surferdude;2842618]Thanks brudda. Not just for clarifying but educating. I was unfamiliar with what the ax kick is called.
BTW, Mawashi geri is round house kick, RealFolkBlues.[/QUOTE]
Whoops, I misunderstood. Thanks for the corrections, guys. Oroshi kakato geri still seems pretty fun to say. 
[QUOTE=RealFolkBlues;2842467]I agree. I don’t speak Japanese, but that’s a pretty sweet little clip. Maybe my favorite part is that some attention is obviously paid to what the pad holder should be doing, which is something some people overlook.
Also, yay ax kick! It’s so brutal and fun. It even has a fun name, at least in English and Korean. The Korean is chik ki cha gi. That’s just fun to say.[/QUOTE]
In Korean it is written 찍기차기 which literally means downward spiking motion kick, or colloquially, spike kick.
[QUOTE=dwkfym;2843217]In Korean it is written 찍기차기 which literally means downward spiking motion kick, or colloquially, spike kick.[/QUOTE]
I hadn’t seen the hangul for it. Korean is a neat language. That translation might actually be even more brutal.
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Now if we could only get taekwondo to do this.
[QUOTE=RealFolkBlues;2842536]See, even the Japanese name is awesome. Also, yeah, that’s a serious kick he’s got there. It’s a fairly dangerous strike they’re demonstrating, as well. On somebody who didn’t see it coming, you’d probably snap their clavicle right in two. And below the clavicle, well…lots of stuff that doesn’t need to get poked with sharp broken bone.
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Oh stop with the hyperbole. Have you actually been hit with that kick? Do you know what it’s like pulling off that kick in live sparring? You’re not going to be snapping anyone’s clavicle…
[QUOTE=Miranda_Jane;2844445]Oh stop with the hyperbole. Have you actually been hit with that kick? Do you know what it’s like pulling off that kick in live sparring? You’re not going to be snapping anyone’s clavicle…[/QUOTE]
I’m pretty sure I said if you hit someone who didn’t see it coming, it would break the bone. Considering I’ve seen people break bricks with it, I don’t think it’s an unreasonable assumption that it would snap a long thin bone like the clavicle if you hit flush. Obviously that last part is the tough one. And yes, I’ve both thrown and defended against this kick in live sparring.
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The Andy hug ax kick is hyperbole worthy though.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6bhfPU8v64shttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6bhfPU8v64s
[QUOTE=RealFolkBlues;2844449]I’m pretty sure I said if you hit someone who didn’t see it coming, it would break the bone. Considering I’ve seen people break bricks with it, I don’t think it’s an unreasonable assumption that it would snap a long thin bone like the clavicle if you hit flush. Obviously that last part is the tough one. And yes, I’ve both thrown and defended against this kick in live sparring.
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Oh, well, now that you tell me THEY’VE BROKEN BRICKS WITH IT…
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sighs
feels glad she left TMA
[QUOTE=Miranda_Jane;2844474]Oh, well, now that you tell me THEY’VE BROKEN BRICKS WITH IT…
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feels glad she left TMA[/QUOTE]
Is a clavicle stronger than a brick? Perhaps, with skin and muscle involved. Or perhaps not. I doubt the bone itself is.
I wager your issue with TMA is a lack of live sparring and pressure testing, upon which we can agree.
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[QUOTE=Gluckmann;2844443]Now if we could only get taekwondo to do this.[/QUOTE]
They totally do this. One of the first kicks you learn after front kick, round kick, and side kick.
Love his leg kicks… Ax kick tho? Not my thing at all. I have stuffed many more ax kicks than I have been hit with, and I have never landed one to any effect.
If you are point sparring yes I can see the ax kick being used to great affect against people who are not used to them or with people caught in a position where they can not smash forwards or dash off at an angle, like with their feet crossed or forced into a corner. Practice and timing could make that kick an excellent point earner but I am not sure about much else.
[QUOTE=BackFistMonkey;2845056]Love his leg kicks… Ax kick tho? Not my thing at all. I have stuffed many more ax kicks than I have been hit with, and I have never landed one to any effect.
If you are point sparring yes I can see the ax kick being used to great affect against people who are not used to them or with people caught in a position where they can not smash forwards or dash off at an angle, like with their feet crossed or forced into a corner. Practice and timing could make that kick an excellent point earner but I am not sure about much else.[/QUOTE]
I would recommend taking a look at the (awesome) video gregaquaman posted. I’m not sure what the ruleset was during the matches in the video, but I don’t think they’re point sparring. 
To me, it’s a relatively high risk, high reward technique that works best for tall/long legged people. Practically you could also use it on an attacker’s feet. That’s a bad day for them if you hit.
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