This thread started because of your response to this:
Originally posted by Zero Point
[B]Djimbe…
As one of the first, if not the first to do battle with Djimbe when he first arirved here, I have these thoughts…
Djimbe is a rabid CMA nutrider to the very core. As much as I would love to believe that Kung Fu is a viable fighting system, I cannot but help think that Djimbe is on a One Man’s Crusade to defend the CMA.
While there are times, albeit few and far between that I agree with Djimbe, there are numerous that I do not. Being larger than the average bear myself, I sometimes fail to see the importance size gives me in phsical endeavors… as well as what size does not do for me. This is the crux of the flame wars at Bullshido. Would the techniques that Djimbe eschews work for the common size man? My answer would be no.
Bullshido is quieter without him. Divergent viewpoints are what make this site great.
If Djimbe can teach a normal size person these techniques and prove they are viable, this would stop the arguments. So far, I have seen nothing. [/B]
and it seems every time you post you prove him right.
Just agreed that you sprawled cause if it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck; it’s a duck.
I train on a semi-regular basis with some pretty big MA, I am talking in the over 6 ft and over 260lbs area as the MIN.
They NEVER know when they are using strength over technqiue, UNLESS they are training with each other, in other words, going up against someone of equal size and skill.
From what I can see with the video, J-Lau’s knees hit the ground before your knees really level changed. From the bad angle though, can’t really tell if it’s because you forced him down or he willingly dropped down and you followed him.
I have studied with Chan Bong for two years some time ago. Djimbe, when did you start studying with him? I was with him in 99 and 2000. In 99 I did Ba Gua during the day, and 2000 did his I-Chuan at night.
Just to let the others know, Chan Bong isn’t even close to what people deem as traditional martial arts. He has an emphasis on I-Chuan which is an amalgam of the Ba Gua, Hsing-I, and Old Yang Style Tai Chi. Chan Bong is the real deal. He used to work out at Gleason’s Gym in Brooklyn and also has a black belt in judo. He really doesn’t care too much about “styles” per se, he only cares about one thing: Can you fight? Let me tell ya, he can still throw down and he should be about 60 right about now. If you want to see what a good fighter from Chan looks like, it’ll resemble the peek-a-boo style of Tyson. If you have the opportunity to be in NY and see him, I’d highly recommend it. He’s a living legend in Chinatown.
I followed him , the thinking being that he wasnt going to lift me even FURTHUR with even LESS of his legs to work with . His Options then became 1) sit there 2) release the hold .
ronin’s right, in grappling you do not realize how much difference weight and power make until you meet up with someone closer to your size. I was sweeping most everyone I train with pretty easily, except the purple belts, with a basic scissors. Then I went up against a 270 pound white belt. Suddenly I cannot just pull him into the sweep. Without even realizing it I had been using mostly strength to make the sweep work.
That Guy : late last year . Im not getiing in as much as Id like , But thats going to stop soon , next year Im going to be a training MACHINE , Damnit ! Well , this year for the Gym , but they have to finish it in a couple of Weeks .
I see your point, and that’s why I made it clear I was talking about grappling. I think it is easier to feel when how hard you are punching than to moderate size and power in grappling.
Djimbe, why don’t you learn from the “blacktaoist” instead? I also think you should check out Adam Wallace. Is he in your area? I think he is if I’m not mistaken.
I always have trouble drawing the line in strength/technique stuff. All techniques need strength to work and strength to counter them.
Where people draw the line seems to be fairly stylistic. When I step behind people and lift them over my head in an “I could suplex you know kinda way” in judo I’m told I’m using to much strength and should just go for a normal sacrifice throw. I’d imagine the responce would be somewhat different in wrestling.
Generaly I strive to make my technique as efficent as possible, this is very different from saying I try not to use strength.
Djimbe, congrats for the good review from KCC You can catch a kick, you can throw a punch, you’re admittedly in a sick shape and your hands are fast.
Congrats, you’re now officially a lonely mammalian with a playboy membership. We’re proud of you.
It’s easy to spot when little guys are using the technique right. Not so easy when it’s a big guy. In that way smaller guys have an advantage when it comes to learning grappling, they HAVE to do it right or it doesn’t work.
You can catch a kick, you can throw a punch, you’re admittedly in a sick shape and your hands are fast.