A Muay Thai Instructor's Review Of Djimbe's Kung Fu .

Originally posted by Djimbe
dude shut up .

Why should he shut up? His statement is both reasonable and correct.

Here’s the thing: Khun Kao’s post is marvelous and very welcome. It’s great to get some first had observations about different instructors.

What it shows? That in his eyes, Master Chan is very fast and skilled and a good instructor … and that applies to the validity of Djimbe how? Or even to the validity of the art they practice?

EVERYONE here knows (or knows of) someone who can make an impossible technique work. My Kali guru is a demi-god; the guy can do ANYTHING in a fight and make it work. He can land jumping side-kicks over obstacles in combat. But arguing that because HE is an unstoppable warrior therefore so am I is ridiculous. Master Chan is probably a great guy.

Djimbe is a known liar and blow-hard. The critisisms directed at him are directed at HIM, not at this Master Chan. And they are valid and have NEVER been answered.

Originally posted by Orion
[B He also seems to know his Tai Chi, [/B]

Nonsense.

Originally posted by ronin69
Who are you refering to?

David Bond Chan. Not to say he is not good. I’ve never heard of him other than online. But… this is the firs t good thing I’ve heard about him online.

I have a large e-penis. To compensate being asian.

There are many TMA that are against OUTSIDE/ADDITIONAL aerobic conditioning, heck even some boxing coaches are against it, though not against running for what ever reason.

As for the punking of Chen Fa Ke…

Originally posted by Luan
I have a large e-penis. To compensate being asian.

Attention:
The size of your e-penis has caused this site to exceed bandwith, please refrain from getting cyber-erections in the future.
Thank you.

Djimbe is a known liar and blow-hard. The critisisms directed at him are directed at HIM, not at this Master Chan. And they are valid and have NEVER been answered.

You , and your little wannabe MAS (including Dochtor , Shumagorath , and a couple of other Idiots have been "Answered and proven wrong repeatedly . Oh , and you are the Liar for repeating the lies made up by that Idiot Wastrel . Saying that I said some thing that I didnt , then calling me a liar because of that thing does not make me a liar , it makes you too dishonest to even admit that you have NO ervidence of any of his bullsit claims other than you like hiom more than you like me .

I may be a pain in the ass , but Im an Honourable individual , and I always have been .

http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?s=afdd18bb8efa17c0f356426def0624c&threadid=30950&perpage=15&highlight=efist&pagenumber=9

It’s long thread, and it’s not about Chen Fa Ke. It’s posted by E fist though. The thread is funny though:eek:

Remeber there are probably thousands of MMAists in the world

Anyways, I’ve never seen Chan, but I saw his student fight and it was poor. I think any MT fighter will beat a Chan fighter. That’s all.

Originally posted by Orion
he seems to have good rooting (albeit not in the league to stop a shoot, and he surely did not control the head as preached).

Didnt need to do anythign to the head ,as that wasnt the topic of Discorse . His head was frere and so was my hands . I thought that more than enough to make my Point .

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He also seems to know his Tai Chi, albeit I still think a boxer in his weight league would eat him alive - I wasn’t impressed by the fighting philosophy.[/B]

Well , You should Attend Chans Taiji classes as well , if you ever get to NYC for a Vacation or somethign . It works fine with Boxing .

[B]

I don’t think he’s bullshido, merely contemptible in his online persona, and surely not in the league he claims to be in. His size, as far as I can see, makes up the most of his skill and determines the way he fights - he can’t be too mobile.[/B]

Why dont you go back to GameFAQs and ask Escravio about my Mobility ? Ask him honestly , I played the Roda yesterday with the Capoeiristas . I move better than you might think , I think .

[B]

The power generation from the legs was good, but I’ve seen Asia do it better on the Throwdown videos - more mobile, and in actual sparring.[/B]

  1. Asia was ttrying to be Mobile .

  2. Asia was actually Sparring .

  3. The movements should be LESS obvious with Time , not more . Its NOT somethign that looks INcreasingly good Visually , but DEcreasingly so . The Idea is to hit HARDER , move more Subtly . Its like Chambering a Punch or something , the less you see of it , the more skiled the Practitioner . Besides , I was pulling all punches , anyway .

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His reflexes aren’t the best - he didn’t see the shoot coming, but I must say that it was REALLY fast. [/B]

Actually , I chose not to move . Whats the point of the Bown & Arrow defense if he dosent get his hands under my leg frst ? That was the whole POINT of the demo , to stand there while he did it . I actually have another clip where I move and HES caught unawares , If you would like me to send it to you let me know .

Serious Harm :

Youre talking about Ray , and Ray was told by Chan that he wasnt ready , and that he would lose . He was also told that hes an Adult and allowed to make his own Descisions .

And by “Conditioning” the only argument that Ive seen them have on it was about Weight Training , Ive never heard anything about Cardio being Bad out of Chan , and he told ME “Youve got Feet , yes ?” when I asked him about it .

Originally posted by Luan
I have a large e-penis. To compensate being asian.

Where the fuck have you been hiding?

Yeah, geez, Lu great comeback post.

Good, good. Now go and fight somebody on the ring before you claim to be better than the blue belt BJJ champion of Europe and video-tested fighter :slight_smile: I’ll buy the video!

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Originally posted by Djimbe
[B]dude shut up .

  1. No matter what the fuck you WANT to think , Bow & arrow stane IS not , and will NEVER BE a Sprawl .

  2. The things that you Claim are “Bullshido” about what I have stated in the past are the PRODUCTS of my training . The arguments that you and I have are the direct products of the variancebetween your trainign and mine . Think about THAT .

  3. Theres nothing bullshido about ME , son . Just because I have been Nice to a couple of Tiny ppl dont let that confuse you . Kindness =/= weakness . OTOH , I KNOW that Im not a Competent Instructor , and therefore I dont run a school ,(a) and I fight against those that shouldnt and do in my Community . [/B]
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  1. A professional MMA fighter and accomplished sub-wrestler said it felt like a sprawl. All who witnessed said it looked like one. Maybe it just doesn’t fit your definition of a sprawl, it seemed to fit everyone else’s.

  2. I think you’re bullshido because you’re pompous about you’re MA skill and knowledge and in my opinion have zero to support that any fighting ability is seperable from your size. You then make statements as to how what you advocate would work for others. That is a dangerous position to hold.

Shit Genki Sudo makes shit work no one else could. If he then advocated those things for others, he too would be bullshido and still able to kick my ass.

  1. see above.

3a. That is commendable. On the other hand I don’t recall you speaking out against much aside from Shaolin-Do etc. I don’t read every thread though so I am probably wrong.

I just wanted to make a quick response, and I hope this doesn’t further muddle the discussion…

(QUICK DISCLAIMER: Just in case some of you have not figured this out, Djimbe & Tigerfly are friends of my wife and I, and have been for a few years now. I’m not here to “defend” him. He’s a big boy and can take care of himself. However, since I do have a little first-hand experience of training with Djimbe, I thought I should at least offer my impressions to this discussion.)

I have sparred with Djimbe, though admittedly it was only for one 2-min round. We were not going full contact, so I can only post a couple of remarks regarding his skill or lack thereof.

  1. He is DEFINATELY lacking in the conditioning department. (common knowledge)

  2. He has deceptively FAST hand speed! For the first half of the round, I was eating his punches because even though I could see them coming, I just could not react to them. After about 1/2 the round, I adjusted and I was able to avoid his punches to a certain extent. But his punches were still very fast.

  3. He has excellent control. Because he and I were merely playing, he was not hitting me hard at all. This is NOT because he did not have the skill to hit me hard if he wanted to, but he was being respectful of the fact that he and I were merely sparring and not fighting. To further clarify this, some people may be led to believe that he was not hitting me hard because he looks like hes fat and he is admittedly out of shape. However, I have sparred with non-skilled people who are large. They hit you HARD because they don’t know how to control their strikes. All of Djimbe’s strikes were controlled and he did not hurt me. Face it, Djimbe is almost TWICE my size… literally! If he did not know how to control himself, he would have laid me the “F” out. But he kept control and “worked” during our match.

  4. He did catch one of my kicks and perform a type of joint manipulation on my ankle that forced me to the ground.

That is really all I can say about him. I cannot properly assess his skill past the above because I did not spar with him longer or more seriously. I am also one of those who question how much of a difference there would be were he of a normal size.

So, can he fight? I have no idea. Can he defend against a shoot? I have no idea. Would I be willing to really fight him? Hell no!

When Djimbe and I have the opportunity to train and spar together again, I will definately offer a follow up to my thoughts and impressions.

Originally posted by Dochter
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  1. A professional MMA fighter and accomplished sub-wrestler said it felt like a sprawl. All who witnessed said it looked like one. Maybe it just doesn’t fit your definition of a sprawl, it seemed to fit everyone else’s.[/B]

I hear what youre sayijg , but you hear me for a second :

ANY wrestler that I have asked to give me the Definition , Usage , and Effects of a Sprawl have all given me the same EXACT answer . Ive then shown them the tech and asked if its a “sprawl” ANd the closest thing I got to a “yes” was “Only If The Guys Definition Is Anythign That Counters A Shoot , but then sos a Shotgun , eh ?” or something to that Effect . A Sprawl involves my moving my legs AWAY , snd putin my Weight DOWN on the guy , and I did Neither .

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  1. I think you’re bullshido because you’re pompous about you’re MA skill and knowledge and in my opinion have zero to support that any fighting ability is seperable from your size. You then make statements as to how what you advocate would work for others. That is a dangerous position to hold.

Shit Genki Sudo makes shit work no one else could. If he then advocated those things for others, he too would be bullshido and still able to kick my ass.

  1. see above.[/B]

I never Reccomend Power Moves to the Masses In fact , I only Reccomend things that I know work ON me FOR smaller ppl .

You act like Im incapable of telling when Strength is the bas8s for a “win” , and thats a pretty easy thing to Detect .

[B]

3a. That is commendable. On the other hand I don’t recall you speaking out against much aside from Shaolin-Do etc. I don’t read every thread though so I am probably wrong. [/B]

Well , and this isnt the only Board that i Post on , but Im currently Thrashing Serious Harm on another thread . I hate Hiuppie Taiji in the Mountains more than ANYONE . I mean , who wants to see their OWN SYSTEM Pussiefied ? It makes me FAR more angey than it could you , you know ?

Even if you only dropped down to your knees, your weight was still forcing J-Lau down and making him unable to stand to that point. If someone his size had tried that without throwing their full weight in, they’d probably be down.

Originally posted by Djimbe

You act like Im incapable of telling when Strength is the bas8s for a “win” , and thats a pretty easy thing to Detect .

If you’ve got more than 200 hundred pounds on someone, and you are at all strong for your weight (even if not exceeding world record lifts) then yes I think it can be hard to tell. Your overpowering someone would not feel like any amount of work.

Dude , its not like I shatter every Glass that I pick up , Slam Every Door that I close , and so on . Look above your post . I am perfectly capable of Sparring with Partners with TOTAL Control , and not Harm them , Im also capable of knocking someone out when I wish . Thats what All those CMA sensitivity drills thatwe do arew ABOUT , learning to read Energies , and Match them exactly . I know how hard Im being Hit , and I know how to Match it . Otherwise , NO Instructor would EVER be able to Spar with a Smaller students .

Originally posted by Stold3
Even if you only dropped down to your knees, your weight was still forcing J-Lau down and making him unable to stand to that point. If someone his size had tried that without throwing their full weight in, they’d probably be down.

Actually , thats not true . The ONLY thing “forcing” him down was his refusal to let go of my Leg . Hew was being PULLED down by his own arms , I wasnt forcing my weight down on top of him . Had he let go , and tried something else , then he wouldnt have gone down . This is why it may LOOK like a sprawl , but it wasnt .