William V Aguiar III sues Ashida Kim and Floyd Webb, Part II

I am back from court. Aguiar showed up late, asked for a 90 day continuance as he had contracted a lawyer. The judge said no. Creeden did not show. The cases against Ashida Kim and the Sheppards’ were dismissed with prejudice. Aguiar is free to file new paperwork and refile against them with the stipulation that he will be heavily penalized of he cannot prove his case against them.

I am now in the case by myself. Aguiar has a chance to get lawyered up and continue to pursue the case against me but it has been pointed out to him by the court that I am well within my claims of Fair Use. If we move forward with a clear sense of cooperation in a reasonable manner, we can be done with all of this by summer, fall at least.

The film moves forward on no money still…It has been a great day in court. The lawyers all did a great job. I felt really sorry for Mr. Aguiar. He is fortumate he had such an understanding Judge who really believes in affording Pro Se cases benefit of the doubt and allowing him the opportunity to come back better prepared with a lawyer.

I feel good.

whoa! well, glad to hear it all worked out for you floyd. and what is this you say…? you… and aguiar… cooperating!? hey well, good on him if he finally does what we’ve been suggesting him to do all along eh?

Yahhhh!!!

Good for you Floyd! When you get out this way Let me buy you a beer. Great news!

Jawney you got some explainin’ to do! You couldn’t even show up Jawney? Falls River goes out with a wimper, not even a bang! haha.

If you lost my email me just pm and I will get it to you. Like I said I can try to get a little even together out here when the film is ready. I want to go read Jawney’s blog.

billy probably called him already. “take that shit down now!”

Well, I stepped out when it got ridiculous.

Good luck on your movie. I’m glad it turned out this way.

All I have to say is I found it funny that all through one of the threads they said they had lawyers. They ( I say “they” since we don’t know who used what account) even argued with me about the lawyers.

Yet, according to you, he needed an extension because he contracted a lawyer. WTF? Did the original lawyer tell him it was a shit case or what? Did I miss a post somewhere?

I know you can’t answer I just find it dubious at best.

Floyd Webb and Ashida Kim and Barron Sheppard are being sued in Federal Court. And their running with their head’s cut off. Their getting sued hand;s down injuction going in on Friday and their gonna loose hand’s down. How’s that for spelling

I thought this was pretty funny.

Yeah, let’s check out Jawney’s blog:

"Never expose your hand boy’s [No apostrophe] untils [No s in the word “until”] it’s time to, and on your term’s [No apostrophe]. Theirs [There’s] a big change coming today [Comma missing] boy’s [No apostrophe]. The transcript’s [No apostrophe] you talk of will be funny to say the least. “Lord of Chaos” and “Rivington " the “gay pimp” seems fitting the name, but to think that this wasn’t thought out ahead of time [Question mark missing]. Guy’s [No apostrophe!] you have no idea what Floyd’s up against. All will be revealed today??? [The use of question marks makes that statement a contridiction.] So Suck it [punctuation missing] were [apostrophe missing] smarter [Yes, and this post proves just how much smarter you are]. Thing’s [No apostrophe!] are getting serious today.”

Grade: Fail/Flunk

Culled from:
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=59843

From John Creedens Blog,

Never expose your hand boy’s untils it’s time to, and on your term’s. Theirs a big change coming today boy’s. The transcript’s you talk of will be funny to say the least. “Lord of Chaos” and "Rivington " the “gay pimp” seems fitting the name, but to think that this wasn’t thought out ahead of time. Guy’s you have no idea what Floyd’s up against. All will be revealed today??? So Suck it were smarter. Thing’s are getting serious today.

Yes John, there was a big change today.

Yes John, the transcripts will be funny to say the least.

Yes John, we had no idea what Floyd is up against…Nothing

Yes John, all will be revealed today.

Yes John, things are getting serious today.

No John, so suck it we’re smarter…wrong

On the bright side John you got 5 out of 6 correct. Just not the way you wanted it.

Mike S

Ooh, I’m famous now!

PS: If the Fall River boys need a few bucks to go down to the Legal Hut at the mall and get themselves an attorney, they can meet me in the bus station bathroom in South Station and I’ll…find them some short-term employment.

Well Johnny has a different story on his blog. Why am I not surprised??? Hey floyd, would love to see the transcripts and the rulings.

Mike S

I have had my first official threat from Johnny, Check it out.

Also Mike Scremph or whatever your name its Floyd looks like the total fool taking someones stuff with out permission. We are the " BLACK DRAGON FIGHTING SOCIETY" AND THEIR NOT. Stop trying to include me in this this was Billy’s thing not mine. I would have handled it on a more personal level if you now what I mean. Mike you want me to make your phone ring to it’s really easy if you have the right equipment. Hahahahahahah RING RING

So John, its OK for you to bust balls as you say but no one else can??? You also state that this was Billy’s thing and not your’s. That you shouldn’t be included in this. YOU included yourself in this. Read your own post’s. Everyone on this board has listened to your ranting and raving (not to mention the name calling and threats) for months. I tried to give you the benifit of the doubt many times. Obviously I support Floyd in his effort to make this movie. One simple question. Did the judge tell William that Floyd is well within his claims of fair use?

Oh, by the way. It is really easy to get someones phone number in this day and age and you dont need any special equipment. I get one threatening call from anyone and it gets turned over to the Feds.

Mike S

When this is all over we will see what becomes available transcript wise.

What happened in Judges chambers stays in the judges chambers. I for one have no interest in angering the court by revealing anything other than what is court record. So I have no reponse to spins and fabrications. It will all be available in the transcript.

One thing that came out in open court that will be reflected in the transcript is that Aguiar showed no proof of ownership over the Creeden film footage. He even hinted he was not sure that that Creeden, Jr actually shot the footage. This is rather curious.

As for Ashida Kim “getting away,” I guess the courts have spoken. The legal process is to be adhered to and one cannot simply charge forward without respecting that process. The judge has given him a chance to continue to pursue the case, recall them with proper and verifiable evidence, with a lawyer in hand this time.

As for being fearful, yeah I was fearful court was going to go past 4:00pm, I had a dinner date last nite. The judge took care of business and sent us on our merry way with a quote from the poet, Dante and his work from the Divine Comedy, “Inferno” .

                                         "Thence we came forth to rebehold the stars."

I am happy.

That cooperation will only come about with the aid of attorneys. I will not enter into any agreements for anything without legal counsel.

haha. Glad it worked out well for you Mr Webb. Well done relaying the hilarity.

So no Creeden or TImmy? hehe and may I add. ahahahahahhahahahahhahaha!

It’s good, also, that you weren’t late for dinner. Bravo…hurah and huzah. Good luck with the funding, keep up the good work.

Johnny,

First off I do not claim to be a martial artist. I was involved from about 1970 until 1980. I ended up quitting Karate mainly because I blew out both knees (torn cartilage, ligaments, etc).

Secondly, I never once busted Billy’s balls. Go back and look at every one of my posts. Also, I acted fairly decently to you (one of the few that did by the way). I would have rather seen a compromise between Fall River and Floyd Webb. As you said, Billy was willing to role the dice and he did.

Third, if you have worked in the nuclear industry as you say you have, then you would know that most security at nuclear power plants is provided by Wackenhut Security. And I am Red Badged meaning I’ve had a complete FBI background check and top flight security clearence (they just dont let anyone in the reactor building).

Finally, all I am saying is if you want to bust my balls over the internet, go ahead. Just don’t threaten me or my family. If you post your going to do something and it happens, with everyone reading this it will just cause you more legal problems. I have not threatened you and I don’t expect to be threatened by you. Yeah, I busted your balls a little bit on Patricio’s blog (said you ended up looking foolish). So bust my balls back, just do not threaten me or my family. Dont dig a deeper hole for yourself.

From here on out I will try and stay on topic about the court case so as not to get on the bad side of the moderators.

Mike S

keep on “doing what you want, when you want” there mr. “intellegence”.

dsimon writes:

Don’t take it personally Mike Jawney and the boys just got taken down hard and with a quickness. I had made a point of questioning Jawney’s contention about his dad’s photos because I had a feeling that this issue would come to bear, and it did. Again let me say, you have no ownership over these materials when they are submitted to a commercial publication Jawney, live and learn. Yo can check with Sam if you question my credentials regarding the matter, he should have recieved my materials by now.

I, feel bad that Ashida got off the hook. I was hoping that Falls River could at least get their shit together enough to take mullet man to the mat for a little legal randori, oh well.

Jawney you might have gone to court with Billy . Considering your media campaign on these boards it might have shown some support for the guy, that is just my opinion and alas, none of my business. But you say that Floyd couldn’t look Billy inthe eye, where were you to look Floyd int he eye?

Floyd you are being a gentleman. Bless you for not rubbing it in. Jawney I still want to maintain civility but you should fess up and maybe try to be a constructive force… stop saying horrible things about Patricio and threatening others. Even if there was some truth to your alligations they are horrible and not appropriate for a public forum and they have no credabiity at this point.

I have a feeling some heads may roll in Falls River Mass. I would not want to be a member of that group right now, thats for sure!

Jawney your blogg is entertaining and I look foward to reading more… stick to the stuff you write about your dad and Cole… this stuff is a good read and interesting. Lay off of the threats and slander and your blog isn’t half bad.

Falls River should recognize the inevitable and embrace Floyd and Chicago. You guys need to get a job Jawney, I say this out of concern.

You know dsimon,

I have nothing personnel against any of these people. I also would have liked for them to win against Ashida. I just never understood the problem they have with Floyd. Even if he is using some copyrighted material (there are evidently still questions about this), this movie could really help their image. I truly believe that if I were in their shoes I would have welcomed Floyd with open arms. Oh well, as a good friend of mine always says, It is what it is. I would still like to see the transcripts and rulings.

Mike S

Absolutely. I agree about Ashida that is a shame.

You look at how far the BDFS decayed over the years it says a lot. Floyd has always been a gentleman and anyone with a little sense could see his enterprise was a good thing for Dante. But Falls River preferred to see an opportunity to shake him down and became nasty when people were not coerced by their threats and their main lobbyist Jawney haha. Jeez with lobbyists like Jawney who needs an opponent! haha.

What also tends to go unsaid is that Floyd’s trailers, his interviews were very well done. I wrote Floyd a long letter of support when I saw his materials because he touched my heart. His work reminded me of my experience in a club very much like Dante’s.

For those with an affection for Dante as a character it should be appreciated when somoene can manage to be sympathetic and endearing without being an apologist. Floyd’s interviews remind me of a wonderful documentary that was done on Carl Jung… You had people interviewed who were at times, cursing him out with tears in their eyes, while laughing about his ways. It was amazing how the film maker managed to convey how much Carl, difficult fellow that he was, was loved by these people.

Falls River lost big on this one. Ippon, thown on the head. Jawney is getting downright nasty on his blogg.

i thought that was funny when creeden posted that at first “billy can’t wait to see you face to face in court”. it’s a fucking COURTROOM you dumbass. floyd doesn’t HAVE to “look billy in the eye”.

for all creeden’s “be a man, i’m a big tough ex military martial arts killing machine” bs he still

-has not been able to verify his actual military experience in korea
-has not posted photos or video of himself
-didn’t fight barron sheppard
-didn’t show up to the boston throwdown

and finally

-didn’t even SHOW UP IN THE FUCKING COURTROOM.

so creeden my advice to you is- keep running your mouth. that’s right, keep running your mouth and “doing what you want when you want” because when you end up paying legal fines out the ass, or at the very least, once your daddy has had enough of your shit and kicks you out of his basement you’ll wish you had practiced a little more self control. and face it billy lost the case (you know, the one you “have nothing to do with” except for maybe the endless hours you’ve spent posting about it and taunting people from the safety of your protected little perch). get over it. stop with the fucking “this isn’t over yet” crap, because it IS over. you remind me of the idiots who yell out “pussy!” to their attacker’s back when they’re on the ground after receiving a beating. that’s exactly what i predicted you’d do though, being that your antics are about as juvenile and predictable as a 15 year old’s.

jr. high school was a LOOOONG time ago for you jawney. it’s time to stop acting like a fucking child because you are playing a dangerous game here with the grown ups. martial artists or not, in the real world people don’t like having their “phone ring” in the middle of the night and they do not like being ridiculed for their disabilities or alleged drug activities in public. you should count yourself lucky that no one has sued you for slander yet, because at the rate you’re going it’s only a matter of time. you’ve given patricio and felkoff ample opportunities to do so, and frankly, if anyone pulled that shit with me i’d have hit them with the legal hammer pronto.