For years, I’ve wanted to publish an infographic , but I’ve putting it off until today. Now, I want to explore the topic of self-defense, violence b/c I lost a friend in 2003 to a stabbing on the steps of my former high school. Any thoughts on the use of violence is welcome. Source:
http://mitchelltactical.com/2017/11/06/self-defense-justifiable-violence-ok/
Hmm, the upload made it grainy. It’s much more viewable on link
Also, can someone fix my misunderstanding of IMG code to get those quotes right?
[QUOTE=mitchelltactica;2955672]For years, I’ve wanted to publish an infographic , but I’ve putting it off until today. Now, I want to explore the topic of self-defense, violence b/c I lost a friend in 2003 to a stabbing on the steps of my former high school. Any thoughts on the use of violence is welcome. Source:
http://mitchelltactical.com/2017/11/06/self-defense-justifiable-violence-ok/[/QUOTE]
You post one more link to your TactiFool website and I am banning you for spam. Host your images on IMGUR or some other hosting site.
Welcome to Bullshido.
[QUOTE=AcerTempest;2955848]Also, can someone fix my misunderstanding of IMG code to get those quotes right?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=AcerTempest;2955848]Also, can someone fix my misunderstanding of IMG code to get those quotes right?[/QUOTE]
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Thanks for the reply. I’m having a hard time your response from the formatting code. I see I ruffled some feathers. Please note, I’ve also gotten pacifist-type responses from the other side of the spectrum in saying not to do anything at all.
Clearly, you are experienced so this articles doesn’t relate to you. Social violence can be a form of communication, but asocial is completely devoid of it.
I disagree with you about using violence to solve problems in the context of daily, social life and society. Examples provided are suffice, e.g. somebody spills your drink
My sources, cases, methodology, quote: Tim Larkin, Target-Focus Training
You’re right, properly socialized people and people who know the cost of violence are squeamish to violence. Some more than others, which I was trying to illustrate.
When is self-defence justified?
Look up the self-defence laws local to your area or country. Use them as an ROE as you go about your daily life and enjoy yourself.
There are a couple of things I have issues with:
I don’t find useful the social-asocial/anti-social model, I think the affective-predatory model is more useful.
Self defense needs to be put in relation with the cultural and legal environment and without forgetting there is a continuum of force, OP seems to imply one has only two options: walk away or unleash the deadly.
Thanks for your reply, Kovacs.
thanks, DCS. I haven’t heard of the affective-predatory model, I’ll look it up.
As for continuum of force, sometimes it seems like going from 0-200 miles per hour, from no force to lethal quickly. However, I can see why b/c the methodology I studied is modeled on criminal violence . The doctrine is built around this and states that those who are the best at doing violence are simply the ones doing it consistently, read: criminals. Thus, it really has no place in civil society.
[QUOTE=mitchelltactica;2955855]Thanks for the reply. I’m having a hard time your response from the formatting code. I see I ruffled some feathers. Please note, I’ve also gotten pacifist-type responses from the other side of the spectrum in saying not to do anything at all.
Clearly, you are experienced so this articles doesn’t relate to you. Social violence can be a form of communication, but asocial is completely devoid of it.
I disagree with you about using violence to solve problems in the context of daily, social life and society. Examples provided are suffice, e.g. somebody spills your drink
My sources, cases, methodology, quote: Tim Larkin, Target-Focus Training
You’re right, properly socialized people and people who know the cost of violence are squeamish to violence. Some more than others, which I was trying to illustrate.[/QUOTE]
Ok, once again you seem to be trying to portray both experience and a lack of the mental scars that come with it.
Let me try and illustrate this in a way you can understand.
First of all, self defense is a legally defined term. Period. There is no further need to discuss when it is justified beyond that, because in all 50 states, the District of Columbia, almost every local jurisdiction and under international laws, self defense is a legally defined term. When it is justified is spelled out in the laws of the place you are at.
There is no excuse for ignorance of those laws. You will not be given ANY leniency by a court or arresting officer based on the fact that you had second-hand information.
At no point in your article did you link to a good source for even ONE primary source document for the laws of self defense. Watch how easy it is. Even I can do it.
https://www.ok.gov/osbi/documents/SDA_LAW_BOOK.pdf
Done.
My experience level is irrelevant to the quality of your article. I was looking at it from the POV that “Would I want to send this link to one of my beginner students asking about self defense?” The answer is no. Too many unrealistic assumptions. No sourcing. And completely ignores the complex realities of violence both in and outside of a sporting context.
The first thing that you need to realize is that violence is a complicated subject and that even cursory study of it outside of a sporting context touches on almost every social and political science field.
Law, psychology, sociology, economics, political science… the list goes on.
If you want to play with the big boys in this game, you need a working knowledge of all of the above. That doesn’t mean you have to have a degree in it, but you DO need to be comfortable with the terminology and careful with your assumptions.
Now, if you had said something like, “Here is a beginners guide to self defense laws.” and sourced it with some actual primary sources, then went on to illustrate some examples from your life and experience, you would not be getting such harsh feedback.
Instead, you made a bunch of assumptions, then went on to create a false dichotomy with very little to back it up.
As one of our supreme court justices might say, I DISSENT. Or to quote our very own Holy Moment, PENIS.
There is a source, it is listed in the bottom of the infographic, thanks for your comments.
[QUOTE=mitchelltactica;2955883]There is a source, it is listed in the bottom of the infographic, thanks for your comments.[/QUOTE]
Regurgitating other peoples second-hand information is not linking to a primary source.
Watch. Let me show you how it works again.
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.9.htm
There you go.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=mitchelltactica;2955890]Thanks![/QUOTE]
You are welcome and are not qualified to teach self defense in any manner you video learning poser.
[QUOTE=mitchelltactica;2955869] The doctrine is built around this and states that those who are the best at doing violence are simply the ones doing it consistently, read: criminals. Thus, it really has no place in civil society.[/QUOTE]
I understand this is Mr. Larkin view and you train in his system (Target Focus Taining). Is this a good example of what TFT is about and how it is trained?
Do you have experience in other systems?
[QUOTE=BackFistMonkey;2955891]You are welcome and are not qualified to teach self defense in any manner you video learning poser.[/QUOTE]
I caught what he was doing. I figured he was one of Tim’s more deluded students, so rather than blasting him completely I was trying to point out the things he was missing in his training in a, probably vain, effort to guide him in the correct direction.
However, to the OP, not to put too fine a point on it, but you still haven’t addressed ANY of my questions or concerns with your article, with your qualifications, or acknowledged the very legitimate criticisms you have received, so I am gonna go ahead and leave this alone and return you to the tender mercies of BFM by just agreeing with his statement here.
TFT for the uninitiated:
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=32343
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=34829
“But, submessenger, those are really old threads!”
Yeah, but people are still spouting the same exact crap, over a decade later.