If I were to invent real antimasturbation gloves, they’d be made of steel wool, not leather.
chain punch your cock with that!
In the hamman, (Straight Street souk in Damascus), they use a steel mesh glove to, er, exfoliate. Jeezus. It will take off a layer of skin, to be sure. There a group of us (safety in numbers) and we were all, well, shredded really. Felt clean afterwards and was glad of the Tea and Glucose.
“what do you think of Wing Chun?”
To me it is a art that is complete in self defense on the real life level. As a MMA or sport fighting discipline well, MMA means mixed marital arts and so you have to know various arts to be complete in the ring, you are fighting professionals. BJJ excel in the caga, octagon, ring what ever because you have rules and in those competitions BBJ has really no rules. Survival is the name of the game for most people begin to study. BJJ practioners or just the origianl JJ practioners form fit these competitions. But lets face it if you are a woman on the streets and you are alone and it comes down to rape or survival are you going to put yourself on your back and try to fight them off? Or would you rather redirect and finger to the back of the skull and run. I train JJ and I have been training WC for some time now and really they are both good and vital to be a complete fighter. People always say most fights end up on the ground but I will tell you that I would rather be standing looking down.
So I think that it depends why you want to train, both are practical and both have there strong and weak points, finding a definitive answer of which form is better well you are not going to find that in the octagon. Wing Chun is a very practical and effective martial art when it comes to self defense, it is logical in its principles and would give you a solid base on the road of becoming a complete fighter.
OK, you fail. Let’s see:
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You are answering a two and a half year old question.
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During this answer, you fail to introduce any arguments that have NOT been made in the last two and a half years. Holy shit, crosstraining is good, you say? MY LIFE IS A LIE! :rolleyes:
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“Finger to the back of the head”? WTF?! No really, WTF?!
Great stuff guys, this is helping my _ing _un nutrider charateristic thread. Keep up the good work.
What do I think of Wing Chun?
I think WC is the proof that Yahweh wants to repeat Babel, but has leaned a great deal of subtlety.
This thread is fucking gay. I just want WC to die because of this thread…not because of the problems with the art…but the people. :dead: :wrestler4
I was just thinking we need more _ _ threads.
You are entitled to your own thoughts buddy, I am answering a two and half year old question, that is what drew me to the forum definately not your weak badgering arguments. My life doesn not hinge on passing your weak minded tests. You fail and and indivdual and a martial artist. And if I did stick my fingers in the your eye…yes you would be screaming WTF WTF!
wow, most of you guys are gay as hell, so quick to bash on a thread that
is called “what do you think of wing chun”. seems like the question was
posted from an person looking to train in the style. not from a naysayer.
some people posted their thoughts from and educated point of view
(as practitioners of the style)
and others from their lack of experience. there is a lack of intelligence on all
aspects of this forum!
Please, let’s not have any more Wing Chun threads for a while. Non WC practitioners who don’t like the art aren’t going to be convinced until they see several WC practitioners placing high in several serious tournaments. This is a requirement they are quite entitled to place on Wing Chun to prove itself.
If you don’t care if the BJJ or MT people like WC, fine. There’s no point posting here to try and convince them, it will just either bore and annoy them or give them an opportunity to joke about Wing Chun.
If you do care whether or not people from other MAs find WC credible, I suggest you just get back to training… try and win a local full contact tournament then post video. The burden is on us.
I’ve been posting to these threads trying to defend WC since I registered about a year ago. I’m tired of reposting the same arguments. If anybody is genuinely interested in hearing my answer to a question about Wing Chun, please PM me, and I’ll do my best to explain the way we do it where I train.
Enough! I have some bagwork to do.
Fuck NO this didn’t happen.
On an unrelated note, I live in t3h same building as someone called “Wing Cheung” - what are the odds? How I chuckled in the post room.
Anyway - you will die a thousand deaths for posting in here.
OK, first of all, how do I “fail as a martial artist”? You don’t even fucking know me. My comments were directed at what you said, not at you as a person. Talk about weak-ass, ad hominem arguments.
Secondly, let me explain this to you. This is a forum community, and a rather critical one at that. See, the way it works is, we need to present fresh ideas and opinions, not the same thing over and over again. You failed to present evidence as to why WC is a complete system, or even a worthwhile one. The only decent point you happened to make (I’m convinced it was by accident) was that it is good to crosstrain. Perhaps next you’d like to tell us that the Earth is round? If, by answering this 2 1/2 yr old thread (about a topic which has been discussed to death recently as well), you had pulled a shining nugget of insight out of your ass, we would be saying, “hey, I never looked at it that way.” and perhaps some would be convinced that WC is totally great. Sadly, you did not, and 90% still thinks WC sucks for the most part. Mind you, I have yet to decide on WC’s worth personally, (although the prosecution’s case looks pretty airtight), I am merely trying to elicit some decent discussion out of you.
Thirdly, oh please. Not “teh d34dly” eye-gouge crap again. If you weren’t nutriding WC, I’d swear you were Ashida Kim trolling the boards. Actually, I thought you were referring to the eye-gouge’s “other retarded cousin”, the dim mak. Please tell me you don’t go for that too?
SAMURAI ASSASIN - We just got over 2 major wing chun threads… the “emin boztepe in mma” thread and the “whats good about _ing _un thread.” Before Aesopian and company race back on here to crucify ur noobiness, lemme recap for you some of the arguments that were discussed in the previous months:
1.) Wing Chun Lineage
2.) Does straight punch lack power compared to say a boxing punch
3.) “Wing Chun is t3h de4dly on t3h $7|2337”
4.) “We cant use our deadly techniques in the ring”
5.) “That guy didn’t do the REAL wing chun”
6.) “My master has the REAL wing chun”
7.) Lack of alive training in Wing Chun
8.) shitload of other stuff
THere is nothing u can say that hasn’t been said about Wing CHun in the last 2 months. It has been a busy period for Wing Chun and the chunners on this site havent done a very good job defending the system (ie they argue w each other as well as everyone else) so plz refrain from making any comments about WC cuz we have heard it all and I would like several weeks of quiet time before any more WC whining comes up again.
These topics are the same arguments that all wing chun schools, families, kwoons what ever, argue about. the problem is that all the chunners are arguing about the petty aspects of the arts politics. all arts have politics, the wing chun people on this forum have spent too much time defending the art, rather than explaining it intelegently.
here is a question i would like to raise. do the theories of the system have flaws? or is it the interpretations that creates the flaw?
was the art supposed to have more to offer but doesnt because too many teachers dont have the balls to question its effieciency?? All arts should evolve with the times. no one fights the other shaolin styles in street attacks any more, so is it possible that the old methods of teaching are in effective? no one throws a double punch at you unless they study choy lay fut! no one throws a straight karate punch and holds it out for you.
as a wing chun instructor, im saying that the petty politics you guys are arguing about are holding your mind back from accepting that your style just might not have all the answers!!!
I guess its the interpretation of the ideals. But this can apply to anything. If it doesnt work, change it until it does? I dont know what this is such a problem.
Here is the part you are not getting, I am replying to the orignal thread, critical or not I am answering a posted question. I am not trying to prove to the forum nor you anything about wing chun. I could really careless what you think about the system. You are as guilty as anyone else who continues to spew the same garabage. WC covers many aspects of fighting the only one not grappling, I would say that is 3 out of four is good (kicking, punching, trapping and grappling for someone who lacks any kind of real applicable fighting knowledge).
You fail as a martial artis because of your vague knowledge and opinionated views about a style that has contributed much to the martial arts community. A great martial artist once said to take in all that is useful and disgard what is useless, it seems that you do not have the ability to see applicability of this art form hence failure as a martial artist dickbag! Why don’t you tell Dan Inosanto that WC is garbage. Or do you not think that accomplished martial artists views mean anything? Its like you trained one art once a month or something, have you been taking online classes because you are an idiot.
I think you are right about one thing…this is a picky forum and there are many people here who make valid view points but you are not one of them. So go ahead score and grade everyone because you lack the ability to impress me with what you know. You attack people for what they say, I have never even directed a comment about you, your discpline, your beliefs…as for the eye gouge try it…before you knock it, you don’t think it works do it to someone even for practice…I know you never have because of your movie references and how you judge it…how about this less typing and more training…I will respond back to you when you have something knowledgable and insightful to say!
In speaking of Wing Chun I am not so sure that the theories have flaws but maybe the interpretation of the applications. Your form is only as good as your instructor’s ability to deciphers the forms. I have some really good instructors, they seem to agree mostly on the basics and body mechanics, but it seems WC is interpreted differently when it comes to shape of the body both your own and the attacker. By this I mean what works for some may not work for others. Many people think that in WC, what works is what works but after the basics are learned you almost have to make it your own. I think this is great, it makes you think and problem solve but to do this you must expose yourself to all body types.
I guess to answer the question…it is the interpretation of the theories by the instructors and the lack of drive by the students to problem solve and make it work. I feel this because when you reference Bruce Lee he did not finish the system, he had to improvise and fill in the blanks, but what he did do is make it his own. He rationalized and was able to understand the applications and the theories melded together. Further more he realized that WC did not have all the answers (no style does) and was exposed to very different fighting styles and body types in the western world, he evolved as a martial artist (in my eyes is the biggest thing).
It would be great to see everyone in the Wing Chun Community come together and just really figure out what works in all the styles, it is just my thought that lineage wars are slowing down the evolution of the art.
I’m sorry guys for the semi-serious reply. I know you’ve come to expect comedy gold from me, and with Boyd recently blown away by hurricane shitstorm, I may be your only, poor substitute.
However, this deserves as much seriousness as I can muster. BJJ is one of the best systems for defending rape because you actually fight your way out of inferior ground positions, where most rapes virtually start.
Or perhaps you might look at the sporting, MMA biased technique known as an “armbar”. Y’know, the one where you have a man between your legs and you break his arm at the elbow joint.
BJJ gives real, functional answers developed through real sparring where you know when you got your ass choked out.
Now it’s your turn, oh Street-Lethal Mcgillicuddy: Exactly what solutions does WC offer to a woman who’s been pinned to her bed with a big veiny dick waving in her face (WELCOME TO MY LIFE, GUYS), and a human bag of turds above her, telling her to suck it like it’s got pure ambrosia of the gods inside? “Finger to the back of the skull”? That might just cause him to nut.
We now return to our normally scheduled mockery, already in progress.