Correct. What leads me to conclude that he is a willful derailer is that he posted on a Southern Praying Mantis thread … posted completely off topic … and then did the “cut & paste” marathon rebut thing.
His off topic comment was that IHO MA teachers should be examples of social grace. Several of us having more time in formal training than he has years of life drew upon our own direct, personal experiences and posted the opinion that PG was wrong.
Regardless of what he felt, thought, believed, the collective Wisdom was that far too many highly regarded MA practitioners/teachers were well known as being less than paragons of virtue for his take on it to be correct. He then whined for pages thereafter getting increasingly more like those of us he professed to dislike, e.g., potty mouth language, etc.
What was total hoot was his repeated claim that no one had provided him with a reason with regard to why he was “wrong” in his opinion. Clearly, each and every posted example of a highly regarded MA practitioner/teacher that was known to be a Hell raiser provided him with the very answer he claimed he wasn’t getting.
He’s a derailer, a punk, a troll, a cheap ass troll, claims to be 21 years of age, claims to be practicing no MA at all, has neither verifiable record nor documented accomplishments, and hasn’t even dared to raise the “real” banner of Bullshido … set up and/or partake in a Throwdown.
In light of the above it really comes down to if he isn’t as I portray him then wtf is he doing here?
Oh look, I’m back for a moment. Maybe JFS will throw a tantrum now.
There’s no nice way to say this: you’re a fucking idiot. I tried to respectfully talk about the issue for, oh, 20 pages or so. Maybe your pea-sized brain missed that part, or the part where JFS & co spammed the whole thread into pieces.
So you’re suddenly ready to talk like a coherent adult, now that you presume that I’m gone. No significant derailing would have occured if you hadn’t started your little tantrum. My post was in response to something that someone said, I didn’t just suddenly post “hey guys, judo is great.”
His off topic comment was that IHO MA teachers should be examples of social grace. Several of us having more time in formal training than he has years of life drew upon our own direct, personal experiences and posted the opinion that PG was wrong.
I cannot be wrong, because it’s a personal opinion on par with “I like oranges.” You’re constantly under the delusion that I’m trying to enforce my opinions on you or force MA trainers to conform to my standards or that I’m trying to claim that my view is the only correct and objective one. I tried to explain this many times over, but you were too fucking busy crying and bitching to hear me. Why are you so threatened by personal preferences that are different from yours?
Regardless of what he felt, thought, believed, the collective Wisdom was that far too many highly regarded MA practitioners/teachers were well known as being less than paragons of virtue for his take on it to be correct. He then whined for pages thereafter getting increasingly more like those of us he professed to dislike, e.g., potty mouth language, etc.
This is something that I readily admitted and also explained how it’s irrelevant. But no, you were too busy tearing the place apart to even notice.
He’s a derailer, a punk, a troll, a cheap ass troll
These apply to you, not to me. You derailed the thread and you trolled (if you can call it that, personally I think you were just off your meds and went on a rampage). You refused to have a mature discussion about anything.
claims to be 21 years of age, claims to be practicing no MA at all
And you claim to have x years of experience in CMA, but so fucking what? You’re again trying to appeal to completely irrelevant shit that has no bearing on anything. The reason why you have to either troll or appeal to worthless trivia is because you’re just too fucking stupid and immature to actually debate or discuss something. When there’s trouble, you either start spamming or appeal to your MA experience or consult your “How to Use Logical Fallacies In a Debate” instruction manual.
has neither verifiable record nor documented accomplishments
Both of which are also irrelevant. I’ve never claimed that I have any accomplishments or any expertise in MAs. How the fuck were you planning on digging up my records anyway? You don’t know my name, where I live or what I’ve practised. Even if you did, no records would probably exist anywhere.
and hasn’t even dared to raise the “real” banner of Bullshido … set up and/or partake in a Throwdown.
Yeah, because the throdown is so fucking relevant in a debate about something that isn’t related to fighting ability, or to anything that would have something to do with a throwdown. It’s also really easy for me to come to a throwdown when I’m on the other side of the planet.
Hey shitbag, I posted that before I said I was leaving. Idiot.
You’re kidding, right? I tried to take people apart without flaming, I tried for ages.
In any event, I say to you what I’ve said about myself. Couple hundred post non-supporting member who hasn’t been to a throwdown or contributed to outing BS = Non-important voice on matters about Bullshido.
Right or wrong, that’s the way it is.
We weren’t talking about bullshido, and I had already contributed the book analysis. You’re also appealing to irrelevant shit, must be some kind of epidemic around here. The throwdown doesn’t matter shit in a discussion. I mean, are you going to fucking armbar me when you can’t argue againts me on the net? Yeah, good luck with that.
I suspect that JFS’ response is to start another spam war because he can’t figure out how to talk like a grownup when he’s challenged on something.
I took you at your word as you posted earlier today … add “liar” to your profile.
I cannot be wrong, because it’s a personal opinion on par with “I like oranges.”
You put your belief on a thread having nothing to do it whatsoever. Several of us disagreed with you based on our personal experiences … which has EVERYTHING to do with it.
So … shitface … what was the POINT of posting your “opinion” as it was only that and not a matter of concern or interest to any save for you? Troll, derailer, squirrel brained fukwit is what you are and I’m having a blast trashing you.
Hey shitbag, I posted that before I said I was leaving. Idiot.
You have now taken to copying my format as well. You are still here after dumping Spam on the Historical Forum … after posting you were leaving … why are you still here?
He’s a fukwad … dumped Spam on the Historical Forum … he’s even taken to copying my format, e.g., “Hey shitbag, I posted that before I said I was leaving. Idiot.”
The troll even set “Idiot” off by itself as is my SOP. “Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.” Fans can be so rabid and demanding … what can I say?
Yeah. But so what? It’s pretty obvious that everything goes in here, and nothing matters or makes a difference.
You put your belief on a thread having nothing to do it whatsoever. Several of disagreed with you based on our personal experiences … which have EVERYTHING to do with it.
They have nothing to do with it. Here it is once again, in really simple form: I personally believe that certain characteristics (that I personally try to endorse) are important to the martial arts, and I’d like to see such characteristics in instructors, though I don’t claim that these characteristics must exist or generally exist.
So … shitbrains … what was the POINT of posting your “opinion” as it was only that and not a matter of concern or interest to any save for you? Troll, derailer, squirrel brained fukwit is what you are and I’m having a blast trashing you.
Like I said many times before, it was just a remark and observation. You went apeshit over it, like I had just barged into a religious forum and spammed that Jesus was a pagan prostitute or something to that effect. You overreacted and did a million times more damage to the thread than I could do in a lifetime. If you’re so goddamn concenred about derailing, why the fuck didn’t you just ignore me? Oh, and you’re not trashing me because you’re unable to do so. Sure, you might be really good at MA, but I’m going to have to rain on your parade by informing you of the irrefutable fact that it won’t help you on an Internet forum. Yes, imagine; your killer techniques won’t win a debate on the Internet, just like my debating skills won’t do me any good in MA. Too bad, so sad.
You have now taken to copying my format as well. You are still here after dumping Spam on the Historical Forum … after posting you were leaving … why are you still here?
What the fuck do you care? Everyone on this forum says one thing and then does something else, so maybe I’m just fitting in by spouting the same contradictory bullshit as everyone else?
I did exactly what you and KFDW were doing. There is absolutely no difference.
He can get banned for spaming, yes, but not for insulting a mod.
As for insulting a Mod…please, as you know, we(I) have had worst than that.
Puny Mortals.
Now you’re talking shit to moderators? Are you just trying to get banned so you can go sobbing over to Martial Talk or MAP and complain that the big bad Bullies banned you for being stupid?
What does it matter that he’s a moderator? Like he said himself, if you can’t stand the heat, get ouf of the kitchen. The attitude of this place is that any and all flaming is acceptable, and people just have to be thick-skinned and deal with it, so I only did what everyone else is already doing.
So by your own logic, his own disagreement is his own personal opinion and shouldn’t warrant himself explaining it to you. He’s not trying to force his opinion on you, he’s just telling you that you’re a whiny bitch. His and many other forumites’ opinions.
Then why didn’t he simply post “I disagree because <explanation>” and leave it at that? His spam war can easily be classified as forcing.
The book analysis was a lot of presumptions and inexperienced thought processes. It wasn’t very good at all, to be completely honest. You went off track a number of times and didn’t present a solid argument at all.
I’m sure it was very lacking, but the feedback seemed to more or less good or at least non-hostile, and I did contribute to the best of my ability.
It was just a random comment to something that someone posted. If you want to start splitting hairs, the original topic was about a forthcoming video tape, so talking about what you did with your instructors during off-hours isn’t on-topic either. Why’s everyone suddenly so interested in preserving the original topic, anyway? Is that the only argument you guys can come up with, or what? Last line of defense?
Whining about how nobody will play nice with you isn’t exactly thick-skinned. Neither is spamming a bunch of unrelated topics.
Then why didn’t he simply post “I disagree because <explanation>” and leave it at that? His spam war can easily be classified as forcing.
Like I said, it’s his opinion. He doesn’t have to explain himself to you.
It was just a random comment to something that someone posted. If you want to start splitting hairs, the original topic was about a forthcoming video tape, so talking about what you did with your instructors during off-hours isn’t on-topic either. Why’s everyone suddenly so interested in preserving the original topic, anyway? Is that the only argument you guys can come up with, or what? Last line of defense?
It’s the fact you’re being a hypocritical idiot. What does what you do with your instructors on your off-time have to do with someone looking like a fool on video?
yes you were being a pain in the ass trying to FIT IN when you dont and didnt have a clue as to what was going or why the things that happend did happen .
Hah hah. It took a pretty long time until I started getting really aggravated. For JFS & co, it took just one post. If I had a thin skin, I would have immediately started the same bullshit. Let’s look at this from the perspective of the real world (you know, that place outside the computer): someone starts giving you shit, and you immediately beat the shit out of him or start foaming at the mouth and screaming insults at him. By Bullshido standards, this is known as having a “thick skin.” In contrast, responding calmly and rationally to his bullshit or restraining him is “whining” and having a “thin skin.”
Like I said, it’s his opinion. He doesn’t have to explain himself to you.
Then why am I required to explain myself? Why wasn’t my comment simply dismissed with “well, he doesn’t have to explain his opinions or views” ? Why do people always talk about the need to back things up, yet in this case people suddenly don’t need to explain their bullshit? Double standards, perhaps?
It’s the fact you’re being a hypocritical idiot. What does what you do with your instructors on your off-time have to do with someone looking like a fool on video?
You’re just repeating what I said. It has nothing to do with the video, that’s exactly what I meant.
I was doing exactly what everyone else is doing, so I guess you just proved by your own arguments that people here are a pain in the ass.
PlasticBoat: “They have nothing to do with it. Here it is once again, in really simple form: I personally believe that certain characteristics (that I personally try to endorse) are important to the martial arts, and I’d like to see such characteristics in instructors, though I don’t claim that these characteristics must exist or generally exist.”
All your posts reflect your complete lack of the very characteristics you claim to cherish. That makes you a liar and a hypocrite. Your still being here just makes you a liar.
I have no such defects as from the very start I whole heartedly embraced JKDChick MODs
righteous bitch action of designating me an “Asshole.” Don’t even begin to think you have what it takes to be so grandly elevated.
At best, you are the animated remains of a failed abortion … coat hanger wire … your Mum should have used coat hanger wire.
What characteristics are you talking about, exactly? You really have no authority to challenge me on that anyway. Your behavior is below all standards set for human communication. I have honestly never seen anyone behave as poorly as you, during the 8 or 9 years that I’ve used the Internet. I’ve never seen anyone as sad as you, even in real life. A violent, out of control drunk or junkie is a hundred times more reasonable than you. You have absolutely no right to criticize anyone’s behavior.
I have no such defects as from the very start I whole heartedly embraced JKDChick MODs
righteous bitch action of designating me an “Asshole.” Don’t even begin to think you have what it takes to be so grandly elevated.
You seem to have an obsession with accomplishments, status, recognition and reputation.
At best, you are the animated remains of a failed abortion … coat hanger wire … your Mum should have used coat hanger wire.
Oh yeah, bringing my mother into this is surely the best course of action. You can’t be that fucking pathetic, can you?
Hah hah… you apparently can’t admit that BS regulars actually act like fucking idiots. Must have been shocking to suddenly realize the truth.
you were just being a thinned skinned whiner .
Like I said before, the Bullshido definition of thin skinned is, erm, bullshit.
Weren’t you supposedly leaving? Why are you still here?
JFS talks like that to everybody, which you would know if you had reviewed any of the posts we have told you about several times. He probably didn’t sweat one minute of that conversation, probably thought it was funny as all get out how butthurt you got over it. All he did was tell you in his own way that martial arts instructors aren’t there to teach you manners, they’re there to teach you how to fight. All you chose to do was respond to the insults rather than the point. That’s thin-skinned. For example:
JFS, you worthless old piece of shit. I’d love to kick the liver spots off of your shriveled old-man nuts because you’re a geriatric limp-dicked vagina who’s making me pay extra taxes for your goddamn Social Security checks.
He’ll probably say something in kind to me. Will I take offense to it? Hell no. This is the environment we post in, so we’re used to it. He responded how he’s used to responding, saying whatever he wanted and how he felt. It’s not his fault you took those lighthearted insults and are trying to make yourself out to be a martyr.
Then why am I required to explain myself? Why wasn’t my comment simply dismissed with “well, he doesn’t have to explain his opinions or views” ? Why do people always talk about the need to back things up, yet in this case people suddenly don’t need to explain their bullshit? Double standards, perhaps?
JFS didn’t ask at all for the explanation. Others did because they wanted to figure out what the fuck all the complaining was about.
