I think we all saw this coming…
Originally Posted by Osiris
Dochtor. 0 and 3? Yet he declares himself invincible on the streets and a pretty good white belt? Um, no. Has he won ANYTHING?
Be precise. I’ve said I could out grapple most here, based on throwdown footage.
Also, aren’t you 0-2 and the historically self proclaimed king of muaythai/tkd? That’s what this is really about isn’t it, my calling you on your bullshit?
(thanks KP! I missed that comment)
There are a lot of grapplers on here - thats a big claim. I take it you mean you could out grappler most of the non grapplers? Not having a dig just asking for clarity.
There are a lot of grapplers on here - thats a big claim. I take it you mean you could out grappler most of the non grapplers? Not having a dig just asking for clarity.
Oh there are certainly guys here who would hand my ass to me on the mats.
There are however lots of guys who try and grapple at throwdowns with limited to no submission grappling experience. This usually results in strange attempts at justifying what they were doing and bragadiccio, rather than “We were screwing around and had no idea what we were doing.” This is to what I’ve referred, and given that a lot here do stand up and no grappling I don’t think it is that outlandish anyway.
You could say it about more people here than I.
Mainly this goes back to silly online arguments I’ve had with osiris in the past.
Edit: Similarly if I were to do standup sparring my comments should be limited to I did okay in some areas but was pretty much outclassed and not knowing what to do.
For instance this is what I had to say about my own performance at a throwdown (a long time ago):
[size=1]-My stand up isn’t just rusty, it sucks. DO NOT TAKE OFF 9+ MONTHS FROM ANYTHING EVER AGAIN DOCHTER!! I did two rounds of standup. The first was against warhogg’s buddy (ninja somebody or other). While my viewpoint was of course restricted I think I held my own in this matchup we probably traded an even number of blows and I don’t think I took much at all to my head. We were wearing four ouncers and so pulled blows a lot so who knows how it actually would have gone though.
-My second matchup was something… else. Did a round of San Shou rules standup with a krabbi krabong guy. We were wearing 16 ouncers, headgear and shin guards. This started out well with us probably trading pretty evenly and I think I landed some decent head kicks. About half way through though it all changed and the guy (I’m sorry I don’t remember his name, 25 PEOPLE were there!!) just started dominating the hell out of me with huge flurrys of punches. Basically he made me his bitch. He got one takedown (I think that’s actually where the tide so massively turned) which I was able to turn and take side if I recall correctly, which was immaterial as it was San Shou. Yeah, I got pwned with a capital “P”.
-My takedowns are too non-existent. I was able to do well when I had a size advantage both no-gi and gi but once I lost that I wasn’t even able to make the best of a bad situation.
-I need to watch my feet. Of the three (?) times I got sub’ed one was an achilles and one was a heel hook. Guess that goes with being a bjj white belt.
-Overall I was pretty happy with how I did on the ground. It sometimes is hard to know how you’re doing when you don’t ever train with someone new. I’m pretty pleased with how I did after 6 months of bjj so it was a nice experience to actually get things like triangles on people fighting you like hell.
And:
I did enough of both to know I need serious help on stand up and on takedowns. Other than that I mainly tried to work what I knew on people I didn’t.[/size]
Clearly the second guy was toying me standing up at first, the first guy hadn’t trained in awhile and I hadn’t trained in a “live” standup art so we of course stalemated (basically what I had stopped doing some months earlier put me at the level of someone with very limited to no training, not really a surprise).
Too many qualify their performance.
I suck at standup. I’m mediocre on the ground. Period, no equivocation.
KFDW’s absence is palpable.
Department or redundancy department =P
The department of deficiency department.
I can’t tell if I got slammed here or not, but then realized I self pwned anyway by saying “or” instead of “of”.
I need to stop trying to be clever…
Video footage says otherwise =P I’m still afraid of you.
I missed the mistake, I was making fun of myself and continuing your joke.
Be precise. I’ve said I could out grapple most here, based on throwdown footage.
You also mock the idea of losing to ANYONE on the street, have declared yourself a pretty good white belt and have been generally one of the most arrogant on the board despite rather transparent displays of humility.
Also, aren’t you 0-2 and the historically self proclaimed king of muaythai/tkd?
My muay thai record is 0-2. I did not claim to be a winning fighter. I said I would be. Besides, you attacked ALL claims of skill, all the while claiming to be a good white belt and invincible on the street. I talked about what I would do. You made unsubstantiated claims of skill all the while attacking myself and others for the same thing. Also, note that my full striking record contains a win in THE ART IM TRAINED IN. While I’ve had a winning record in my art, you’ve been steadily defeated in BJJ. Clearly your ego has you competing at too high a level. Whats below white belt? Fucking poser. Bragging quietly from the sidelines doesn’t change the facts that your oh-so-humble mouth doesn’t match your ability.
To be fair, I suck ass and I’ve been able to fight my way out of str33t situations just fine. The majority of people you meet in self defense situations are pussies compared to the people who you see every week at sparring.*
*an assumption based on personal experience and the fact that there are much less people who do contact training than not.
Osiris & Dochter, would it solve anything if I made both of you tap at the same time? 
I don’t know if that would solve anything but it sure would be fun to watch.
I thought this was all covered in the mega threads in the black belt club. Do you really want to start that petty drama again? Guess so.
(1)Link to that? If I posted something like that I’m sure the humor is obvious.
(2)Uhh. I am. So? I’m a pretty good bjj white belt. Not great but better than lots. How is that an arrogant claim? Here, maybe this will clarify that comment a bit: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?p=650037
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(3)Link to where I’m arrogant about my fighting ability? Ridiculing your view of reality doesn’t count. My saying I’ve been hit harder training than you were in your fights while you’re talking about how great you are for getting plastered isn’t arrogant, it is a statement of opinion, I’ve been hit full force by a light heavyweight fighter. Basically my comments go to your needing to shut up because you’re not special.
(4)Again, links? When have I claimed to be invincible? By virtue of the fact that I train (something you seem to do inconsistently) I know that there are in fact loads of people who can kick my ass.
(5)Unsubstantiated claims of skill? Where? I’ve said I’m alright at grappling, which you yourself agreed actually puts someone pretty high on the skill meter here, and that’s about it. Further I’ve posted video of me being beat (and didn’t force others to track it down to try and perserve my ego). I’m more than happy to post that again here. Any readers happen to save it? If so post it, it’s on my home computer HD so I don’t have it with me right now.
I’ve never hidden that. I’ve never had to go out and challenge people or take fights (while not training) and try and prove how tough I am. That is stupid, and that is why I attack your posts to that effect.
(6)Irony. How are you recovering from that “knockout”?
Again, my comments to you go to your own interpertation of things and your arrogance about your skill level. I myself suck and acknowledge that. That suckage in my opinion isn’t as bad as some of what I’ve seen in throwdown videos though. That’s about it.
Now, does a non-delusional mod want to split this comment and Osiris’s into a seperate trollshido thread? Phrost intended something here and my and Osiris’s continued (who knew?) bickering will just litter it further.
Blah, forget it Doch.
LOL! I’m kinda multitasking right now. I feel you too.
I’m in the middle of buying new/selling old house, teaching students, setting up stunt work and reading all of you guy’s skills/lack of.
I will try to put my 23 years of experience of mostly hard contact training and conditioning to your 2 years of light contact BS “randori” in a context you can understand. But later.
You’re funny. :qright5:
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Koto_Ryu again.
:director: Instant banning offense!!!