TKD ownage

heres da story:

i sit next to this chick in english, during the lecture, i get on the computer, start looking through the forums here on bullshido, and start watching through the vids.

girl- “blah blah blah, i got a bb in TKD”

me- “ok cool, who, what when where”

she tells me she has a brother that is really good and what not.

I end up inviting her to watch one of my classes to show her how different it was.

she comes, watches, then pretty much tells me that we don’t kick very hard during sparring.

(Stand-up sparring in my class is pretty much the gear you would see on a tkd guy but with boxing gloves, except full force punches to face and low kicks and take downs. no ground work)

i invite her to come spar with us.

she agrees, ends up bringing her brother and 2 other blackbelts from her school and her instructor.

on the day of the class, i notice that they are pretty comfortable.

I later find out that they go into other TKD schools and spar frequently.

Moving on…

-we cream them-

they were not used to punches in the face, and takedowns.

now all of the people they sparred have not been in our class for more than 3 months. though one had experience doing highschool wrestling.

we also had one guy who was pretty good and jumped from school to school frequently in our class, he froze up when he saw a blackbelt around his opponents waist.

after being happy that we had kicked some tkd ass, i began to think, had my school not gone the transformation of tkd school, to cross training and freestyle, would that be me?

where does brute force and technical fighting balance out?

Edit

she invited me to go spar at her school, but ofcourse they will spar under tkd rules, im still debating on what to do their. i would still do well, i just dont think i will do as good using rules that im havent used in a while, but i guess that would balance things out:bully: :waoya

Just ask her out, take care of business, and marry her.

Good for you?

uh hey MMA guy

no beef or anything

But wouldn’t it be pretty obvious you’d win against a TKD-only stylist, considering that you crosstrain?

:nike:

not trying to say TKD sucks, main purpose of the thread is when does brute force and technicality balance out. the guys at our school have only trained in freestyle for 3 months tops,

and also to toot my own horn

Are you asking a question or something? “When does brute force and technicality balance out”? How does that really apply to the story?

I’m failing to see here.

oops.

see, the guys in our class were noobs, but given the liberty to tackle, punch, etc, they managed to beat these TKD guys.

so, since they didnt know a whole lot of technique, they were able to use their force over the technical type of sparring the tkd guys used

It’s generally better to be trained than untrained.

Training in any type of martial art is better than being left out in the cold. The way I see it, if you picked up 10 potential atackers off the street in random order, probably only 2 or 3 of those people would know MA. These odds will probably continue no matter how popular MA gets.

Training in any martial art is beneficial for combat. At best, your average street thug will have minimal boxing knowledge.

they had training, 3 months of it.

All I’m trying to say is

Training > Non-training…

Taekwondo is a combat effective art. It would be difficult, to say the least, for an untrained guy to take on a well-trained TKD man. I don’t listen to the TKD bashing. very pointless

No

Good training>no training

Crappy point sparring<no training

Ok, I’m not trying to be a dick here, but:

You say these guys were noobs and given the liberty to tackle, punch, etc, they managed to beat TKD BBs. So basically, these TKD BBs could probably be beat by Joe “Street”. 3 months of training is jack shit. They might as well have had none.

Then you say since they didn’t know a lot of technique, they were able to use brute (I’m guessing un-martial) force to take down these TKD BBs. So you’re trying to make a corollary between brute force and trained martial skill.

But you’re failing to realize this one thing, which is why I don’t understand what you’re getting at. These TKD BBs sucked. Sounds like they came from a McDojo and had no experience outside their own art. So all of this is moot.

Now, this might be a good conversation if some Muay Thai or Kyokushin BBs came in and sparred these 3 month guys. If the 3 month guys beat them with pure brute force, then we’d have a conversation. But what the hell?

And you’re mistaking “brute force” for untrained fighting.

All I’m trying to say is

Training > Non-training…

Taekwondo is a combat effective art. It would be difficult, to say the least, for an untrained guy to take on a well-trained TKD man. I don’t listen to the TKD bashing. very pointless

This is not always true. There are many, many “untrained” guys out there who could stomp the shit out of a “well-trained” TKD man. It’s just fact. There are guys out there who have never set foot in a dojo that can probably beat guys who’ve trained all their life. Just one of those flukes of nature. I’m assuming most of us are training to slim down those guys.

Also, training in a shitty MA can develop bad habits in a real fight. Whereas someone who’s been in lots of bar fights and brawls knows what to expect.

So in conclusion; A boxer will not always beat someone who doesn’t box. But, by training to box you can cut down the chances of that happening. Thinking that it’s not a possibility is naive at best.

So BudoRyu, are you suggesting TKD sucks? If so, you are completely wrong.

And Emevas is another fuckin’ ignorant BJJ meathead who think he owns the world… dumbass

I don’t even do BJJ…

um, are you a chick on her rag?

or are you just a bitchy little loser?

what did i tell you about coming at people like that?

I think the question we are all waiting to be answered is, was she hot?

no, but her freind was.

You know, I wasn’t even going to start, but you’ve forced me to.

If you could fucking rip your own nutriding head out of your ass you could see that not everyone is out to bash TKD. If you read what I said you would see what I was talking about.

And yes, I do think most TKD sucks. Why? Because that’s been my experience. And it’s Budobuyu you ignorant piece of shit.

Your school rocks, your guys beat some BB’s, mental masturbation is Kool! This thread is like a dog and a cat fucking… It’s just wrong.

:5shocking