The Worst Techniques I've Ever Been Taught

(a continual growing list as more and more memories from my karate days come flooding back)

  • Knee to the groin defense: Drop both hands and palm strike the incoming knee. Especially helpful considering the human body is physiologically incapable of punching and kneeing at the same time.
  • Knife Disarm: Assume the person has approached you and is statically holding a knife in the air, pointed somewhere in your general direction. Slap the back of his hand as you foreknuckle strike just below his wrist. This technique worked about one out of four times, and each time the knife would go sailing out of the assailant's hand in a completely unpredictable way including, at one point, my throat.
  • Crane beak to the jaw; wrist strike to the chest or thigh.
  • Asked sensei for some effective ways to attack the legs/feet. At the time, I was having a big "efficiency" kick and wanted to learn the most practical way to hurt a person from a distance. Sensei advised me to kneel down and punch him in the foot.
  • We were taught that all fights occur at "streetfighting range" which is, no exaggeration, about one-inch from the opponent.
  • Haymaker defense: Karate chop the collar bone, breaking it. Grab the offending arm, straighten it out, and jerk it back and forth "into" their shoulder. The idea was that once you broke the collarbone, you could use the arm to stab them in the throat with their own clavicle.
  • When a person commits to a punch, we were taught, they can do nothing else until they hit something. This principle was exploited in depth as we discovered fascinating things about how people have no control over their fist once they launch it and anything else is goddamned witchcraft.
  • My school placed an absurd amount of emphasis on effeciency, even when it made no sense. I'm sure pretty much anyone here who's had experience with a TMA knows about the idea of blocks being strikes, right? Well, I was taught that every single motion of the block was a strike. EVERY SINGLE MOTION. This eventually wound up with surreal contests where the teacher would throw a middle block in slow-motion and count how many potential strikes there were in it, then backtrack and go for the high score as the class watched with utmost respect.
  • Toe gouge to the femoral artery. Toe gouge to the femoral artery. Intended as a killing blow.
  • "Sometimes, the best defense against (grappling) is a pinch." That was actually said by the sensei's wife/girlfriend, but she was a complete pussy who, even at black belt level, could not throw a proper punch nor make the correct Isshin-Ryu fist.
  • Nukite strikes. Some people readily admitted that striking with your fingertips was utter madness and that they should be interpreted as palm strikes. Others told me to jam my fingers into milk jugs full of sand to properly condition myself for the upcoming Finger Wars of 2027.
  • At one point the sensei went off on a tangent about what he'd do to terrorists if they hijacked his plane. One of them involved reaching his hands out into space, twisting quickly, and saying "that would've broken their neck".
  • When you're pulling on someone's arm, it's better to pull using only your middle finger, ring finger, and thumb, instead of your whole hand. I mean that's just silly.
  • Actual quote: "It's been proven time and time again: The guy who has his hands down by his waist will punch faster than the guy who has his hands up by his head."
  • How to throw a hook: The arms are to remain completely straight, up until a second before impact, at which point you suddenly bend your arm. I have no idea what the rationale is behind this
  • From the kata Seisan (which I understand a lot of the karate folk should be familair with), there's a series of "hand-off" motions. These motions created bunkai for an incredibly elaborate defense against a straightforward punch that ended with you and your opponent back-to-back, his head resting on your shoulder, and you leading him around with your middle finger latched onto his upper lip.
That's all I can think of for right now. My intention is to make this THE dumping grounds for all the inane shit we learned when we didn't know any better. And in my own personal defense, most of this stuff I never bought anyway, I just liked some of the ideas I was being taught and was dead set in that "in three years, I'll be able to defend myself" mentality.

Double lapel grab defense: Lightly grab both elbows and lift up; double karate chop to the exposed ribcage. This, I was told, is a zero-effort move.

Reverse vertical punch defense: Strike with the webbing of the hand into the “front” of the bicep. Be careful with this move; you could “move” the muscle up towards the shoulder blade.

Drop down to one knee, punch to the balls. The important thing to remember here is to tripod your legs for extra stability; that is, your rear leg should be off at a 45 pointing towards your front leg. This way, your opponent can’t just push you over since, if you’re kneeling down in a fight, your worst fear is falling to your side.

More kneeling attacks: Drop down to a lung right in front of your opponent’s legs, like you’re doing a basic shot. Then throw two hooks to his thights. On a personal note, I fucking hated this technique. Being a compliant uke is one thing, but just standing there and letting the fucker s-l-o-w-l-y hammer away at your inner thight with his fists and elbows, trying to see how many potential hits he can get off you (there’s that efficiency again!) made me realize what Christ must’ve felt like

This was a weird one. If a guy is rising in a chair and you want him to sit down, you basically rub their back. Apparently you go rub, harder rub, power rub, and on the third rub they sit down.

I was taught this one novelty strike where you vertical punch with your thumb sticking straight out. That was from his lethal bag of “chi” tricks.

Defense against a bear hug: Point your fingers to the floor. I repeat, the proper way to defeat a bearhug is to point your fingers at the floor and do absolutely nothing because we’re at a stalemate or something God I wasted my life.

Fun fact for all the boxers out there: “Chi flows through the fist like a tornado.” Found that in my old Sensei’s notebook, thought it may be helpful to you guys. Accompanying it was a drawing of a fist with a bunch of little swirly lines in it.

We were taught that when a person cocks their arm back low, as in an Isshin-Ryu reverse punch, a nerve is exposed on the shoulder that hurts really, really bad. The only problem is, the nerve is covered up when a person raises their hands for any reason. So basically, we were taught to strike an obscure nerve on the anterior deltoid, but only when their face was a viable target.

I saw an old isshin-ryu seminar tape not too long ago. The instructor showed some anti-grappling, although unlike most antigrapplers, he chose to demonstrate a defense against O-goshi instead of the standard double-leg. Now guys, I know we all like to bag on karateka trying to do shots and whatnot, but you haven’t seen comedy until you’ve seen a totally random man get pulled from a crowd and be told to “put me in an O-goshi”. He was struck in the groin for his efforts.

Grab your opponent’s belt, step back into a cross stance, yank them back, punch to the ribs.

Standing arm bar defense: Apparently, there’s a very small pressure point on your back that, when pressed, makes you immune to armbars. I’m not shitting you. We were taught to use our free hand to activate this point and simply rise out of it like the time Christ rose from the murky depths to deliver Excalibur to King Arthur.

Hook defense: Throw a smaller, tighter hook inside of their hook. The idea was their bicep would push into your elbow, powering your punch with virtually no effort on your part. No consideration was given to the fact that he’s still gonna hit you.

If your opponent gets fancy and tries to “corkscrew” his punch like a “straight person” , step back into a cat stance, backfist the top of his hand. But what if he fakes you out, goes for the vertical punch?? Lest you believe karate is just a rigid, inflexible series of choreographed techniques, there’s a built in counter, for you can also strike his radial nerve or bicep!

The guy tries to sweep you. No, not that kind. Mortal Kombat sweep. You kick your heel up, towards your opposite hip bone, so your foot is basically at a 90 with the ground. Now throw a kick! No you fool! Don’t rechamber your leg! There’s no time! Kick with your leg parallel to the ground, striking with the ball of your foot! GOOD WORK CADET

From Wansu kata: High block to deflect the ubiquitous telegraphed punch that exists as the heartbeat of the karate world. Step in, grab his belt, AND LIFT THAT MOTHERFUCKER OVER YOUR HEAD AND THROW HIM LIKE ANDRE THE GIANT. If that’s too cryptic, imagine doing a firemen’s carry without sinking your hips at all. Some schools, mine included, acknowledged how silly this was, and noted instead that “you’re really taking him over more to the side”. I have no idea what this meant, but then, neither did they. For all I know they wanted me to grab his wrist and his belt and spin him around like Genki Sudo.

90% of all Isshin Ryu techniques involve some usage of the crescent step, which is hilarious as far as classically antiquitated footwork goes. But as I advanced, there came a time when I was taught to lift my foot high as I crescent-stepped towards my prey. Why?, I asked. “Imagine something’s in your way. Like a log.”

Dropping your hands to your sides. No, I don’t mean to chamber punches or because you got sloppy. We were taught to drop our hands to our sides WITH AUTHORITY to counter a strike to your flank.

Your opponent is chasing you. Kick your arm out to the side, bent at a 90, fist pointing down like someone’s kimura’ing you. Step back into a T-stance, straighten your arm like doing a tricep kickback, backfist to the jaw.

Double palm strike to hip bone and shoulder. Double punch (one fist over the other) to solar plexus.

We learned a generic karate takedown that ended with your opponent on their back with your head and one arm between their legs. “This is such agreat position!” gushed the blackbelt I was training with. “There’s nothing he can do from here!”

I have one worthy of this thread now . Monday My instructor brought out the dreaded red notebook of bull shit for the up coming belt test .

I SWEAR to god we ended up shortly there after , judo rolling to our invisable training partner and side kicking them … from a kneeling position . Then using a combo of elbow strikes to the thighs and the groin .

So … we have an attacker thats 8 feet away … we are suppose to judo roll across broken glass and lava into what a I consider to be a place asking to kicked ,stomped, kneed ,etc . Then once we are in the killing range ( basicly sitting on the ground on one hip looking up at the person’s groin , you have to be close enough to use the elbows right ? ) we side kick …from the ground mind you no leaping up into it or anything fun and flashy to add power, but sitting … then launch a twisting right left elbow strike combo to the thighs then a right elbow up into the groin .

All the strikes (side kick included) are pretty useless becouse of the lack of body weight , hip motion , and silly ass angles . If I am going to start striking someone while I am on the ground they are gonna be down here with me damn it ! Not kneeing my face into a pulp while I flail my elbows around .

While I haven’t been taught many “useless” moves in Enshin Karate, I know a few others shown to me by friends, namely Crescent Kick, Snap Kicks, High Roundhouses (this one being one of the most impractical kicks in Enshin, in my opinion), any kick done in the air, etc. Spear Hands aren’t very effective for me either, as Hook Kicks aren’t. A lot of Aikido throws I’ve read about seem not entirely useless, but they’re close. Maybe it’s different in a Dojo, but the book had the throws being used as a defense against a wrist grab, which nobody really does.

I don’t know if it’s “bad” per se, but every every time we’ve been taught judo foot sweeps, I just couldn’t “get it”. Something just ain’t clicking.

Hi KeinHaar. Have you been sure to break their balance before you attempt the sweep? If not, give that a go, it should make your sweeps a lot more effective.

I have a few gems to add to your list. When I was in the army we had this officer whom we shall simply call Lt M. He was a twit as well as a wanker. He lived in his own world in which he was totally incompetent (like these complete fukcers I used to flat with whom I shall refer to only as … Haw and Hem). Anyway. to the point.Lt M was supposedly a high ranking student of some “hard core” style. Don’t know how long he for trained or what the style was. Whatever it was … well… here are some of the bits I remember best… let the following describe his “methods” (right handedness assumed. Reverse if lefty of course):

A). Place feet and hands on the ground, with your body facing UPWARDS. Whilst remaining in this position, kick your leg out to the side at 90 degrees towards your enemy.

B). Stance: stand side on with right hand up by head and left arm straight down by your side.

C). Blocking. Keeping your left arm completely straight and clenching the fist, swing it up to intercept the blow and then lower it back down.

D). Knife hand: Fairly standard, except you don’t hit with the hand. You hit down with the fingers, little finger first.

E). Some kind of back kick: As enemy comes in, turn around and stand upright, facing away from him. Swiftly pull heel straight up to buttocks as per a standing quad stretch. The intent of this is to connect with the groin. Or get smacked in the back of the head.

F). Armpit kick: When enemy punches, side step and swing straight leg upwards. Object is to hit enemy in the armpit with your shin. Why? I really don’t know.

G). Another back kick: As enemy approaches, turn around so that you are facing away from him. Drop into pushup position with straight body, arms and legs. As he charges in, raise one leg (keeping it straight) and try to collect him under the chin.

H). Never use your hips or legs when punching! It is “uneconomical movement”. Arms just arms men!

Here are a few other little examples I came across elsewhere. These are from lessons from guys who did a six week training programme that “qualified” them as instructors.
The basic concepts of the system were good. It was based on simple, dirty fighting focusing on knees, groin, eyes, throat etc. However, the actual teachings were a big pile of horse doodies.
Here are a few examples (note that the strikes listed below are the ONLY strikes this system actually permits. ALL are off the front hand. Rear hand strikes were forbidden as they were "Too slow

A). Stance: Stand side on to enemy, feet shoulder width apart. Have rear hand up by head. Arm facing foe is to be held at a 90 degree angle , bent at the elbow also on a ninety degree angle. This was known to most of us as the “Please break my ribs” position.

B). Knife hand: From the above posture, strike down by straightening arm at the elbow. The arm straightening action is the ONLY motion for this in their teachings. Basically nothing but tricep. They insist on everything else being still. As you can imagine, its like hitting someone with a feather duster.

C). Palm heel strike: From the same side on position, pull arm back and push palm out to the side. Basically imagine standing still and pushing something to the side of you.

D). Eye/throat strike: Same as palm heel above but with fingers held rigid and pointing at target.

E). Elbow: Chicken wing stylings. Hold elbow to rib cage and lift it up sideways to meet target.

F). Knee stomp: The technique itself is no problem. Basically stomp heel onto enemy knee to over extend and wreck joint. The issue here is how they tried to apply the method. One would now turn to face one’s enemy with feet parallel. Throw both hands straight up in the air (and I do mean completely straight). The theory is that the enemy will then look up in confusion and you can stomp on the knee. Or he could smack the hell out of you while you’re completey unprotected.

G). Kinsetsu Geri (forgive my crappy Japanese spelling): To those unfamiliar with the term its basically a sidekick to the knee. Don’t get me wrong, a very useful and nifty thing. But once again the “instructors” have completely missed the point and come up with a totally crap way of applying it. Stand sideways as with most of the other techniques here. Side cross step and execute the strike. While doing this have BOTH HANDS ON YOUR SUPPORTING KNEE for “Balance”. If the first shot misses, keep on going continously. The theory is that “Even if he gets out of the way of the first one or two, if you keep running at him sideways kicking all the time you’ll get him with one sooner or later!”. Or he might just smack you in the head.

This was pretty much what these clowns taught. And swore by.

Yep this will work: http://romatron.com/techniques/limalama/2/

While I’m here:

http://www.romatron.com/techniques/jujitsu/3/index.html

The Romatron looks like a sex toy. I don’t think i’d want that on my keys. Made worse by the pink color.

funny how he moves from here

to here:

without ‘attacker’ maintaining his range and striking with the weapon… and to do this all they say is:

Step in to his attack, and stop his attack at the wrist, moving outside his attack

Heh supposedly this is how to disarm someone with a baseball bat… Nothing like a nice old static drill.

Maybe the guy’s bandana gives him the ability to move without walking. He just slides in to his opponents attack. I think I saw that in a Jackie Chan movie, so it must be an ancient CMA technique.

http://romatron.com/techniques/limalama/2/5.jpg

I like this one. Good times had by all!

Ridge Hand!!!

Kiaai!

Finish him off with a side kick to the floating ribs.

FINISH HIM!

even his uke is laughing at it.

Whats the point of even having a bandanna?

what is the pratical reason of even wearing a headband when practicing in the dojo?

Same as why you’d wear a headband any other time. Traps sweat so it doesn’t sting your eyes.

I don’t think these particular guys are training hard enough to sweat though…

Pussies, use vaseline like A REAL MAN, A MANS MAN. Headbands are for girls.

Hey, did I say I use a headband? I just know what they’re for.

I wipe the sweat off my brow and flick it into the eyes of my opponents. That’s what real men do.

Though I suppose a vaseline’d head could be useful for escaping a headlock.

… this is why I dunk my head in a vat of olive oil before I leave the house.

I think that his headband compliments his candy-cane belt quite nicely.

Wow!! The only thing that looks worth doing, in those pics, is the MILF talking to the little kid.

wow. I didn’t notice the belt until you pointed it out. So that’s what a candy-cane belt looks like, eh? hurting.