[quote=Pilgrim;2368849]Then, hush, hush, go and look it up yourself, noobie!
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Look what up?
What the hell are you trying to say?
I know who the Fahrangs are that fought in Thailand in that time frame and he ain’t one of them.
And once again the glaring fact he doesn’t have any Muay Thai or hell even any Kickboxing training listed, but he won 3 “pro” fights in Thailand?
But hell if 4 guys with spears on your neck can’t hurt you what are a few elbows gonna do right?
Okay, what about chilling out a bit?
You write, in response to waxeater:
Not many Fahrangs fought in Thailand back then, and those that are known to have fought at a “pro” level IN Thailand are documented, so actually it would be very easy if he claimed having “pro” level fights.
So, do you have means to prove or disprove his claim? - Then, don’t hold back, do it, and present your results to us, if you don’t mind.
Anyway, this guy is so obviously a fraud as he can be; that, unless the German MA scene’s savior has been working in Frankfurt for the last twenty years without having anyone know.
As to the fights in Thailand, “pro” could mean anything there; if he is a moderate HKD/TKD practicioner, it is not improbable that he fought in the ring; it’s all about semantics here.
“Pro” doesn’t necessarily have to mean “ivy league”. Especially in the 80s, people that did amateur fights for money at any funfair/bar/whatever had a tendency to call themselves “pro”.
However, if you have proof (say, member lists, photos, word of an acclaimed instructor, etc) that Schumacher in fact did not participate in the Hong Kong fights you mentioned, please bring it on.
Mr Schumacher’s biography, even without the issue with his fight record, surely shows enough suspicious spots that qualify him as an object of a bullshido investigation.
[quote=Pilgrim;2368884]Okay, what about chilling out a bit?
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I don’t chill
I get ill
You hear me?
Trust me NO Gwailo were at those no rules bouts in Hong Kong in the 80’s
So, you have no proof but your word? - Then, send one of the mods a PM or an email giving your personal details, so you can be held liable for what you claim.
Apart from that, thanks: With Schumacher, you have found Bullshido a very interesting case.
[quote=Pilgrim;2368898]So, you have no proof but your word? - Then, send one of the mods a PM or an email giving your personal details, so you can be held liable for what you claim.
Apart from that, thanks: With Schumacher, you have found Bullshido a very interesting case.[/quote]
Dude, Bro, whatever
I have trained with Sifu’s who were there and they assured me NO Gwailo fought in those no rules bouts, WHY would I want to question the people who have shared knowledge of true kung fu with me?
We will leave it at that I don’t want to derail this investigation.
You are making an unsubstantiated claim, based on hearsay.
Please read the stickies.
Hey I am not the one making claims about fighting in no rules bouts or “pro” muay thai bouts, I don’t as a matter of respect challenge my Sifu’s , nor do I intend to bring them into the discussion about Mr. Klaus.
So who do you want to investigate me or the leader of the “world martial arts league” ???
You fail @ board rules and logic.
Provide base for your claim or GTFO.
[quote=Pilgrim;2368923]You fail @ board rules and logic.
Provide base for your claim or GTFO.[/quote]
Like I said I am not the person making outlandish claims, so get off my nuts kraut
Hehe, let’s see how long you last here.
[quote=ChenPengFi;2368924]I will further add that many “Gwailo” were around in Hong Kong during the '80s and it would be pretty silly to assert that NONE could have fought then.
It was the '80s for crying out loud, not the '50s.
Dave Lacey specifically mentions Portuguese GANGS in HK far back as the late '50s as well as having fights against them.
http://www.pantherfist.com/page3.html
I might add that Sifu Lacey is of mixed race himself…[/quote]
lol of course they were “around” HK is an international city, but when it comes to Kung-Fu we all know the history with teaching foreigners.
I amyself am of mixed heritage, the ONLY reason I initially got my foot in the door with teachers of the “true” Kung Fu
Translation : I am going to cry to the mods like a little bitch
If we can all take a deep breath and calm down…
I would hate to see this thread crash and burn because of wayward noobish jackassery.
@MC Kwai, if you make claims, you are expected to back it up. You may have heard something from your instructor, but unless you are willing to name specific names and places, it’s nothing more then heresay at best, and slander leading to a potential lawsuit at worst. For this reason, when you say things like “he wasn’t there,” you are expected to back up your source of information. Don’t take it personally, it is expected of everyone.
Now as for this guy, he is either a fraud, or a shameless resume padder like one Ralph Severe. If you can get me some names, dates, and locations, I will be in Thailand this Dec. and can see what I can dig up. Otherwise, send out some e-mails to some MT gym managers, and see if the name raises any flags.
Read the stickies.
Read what i posted.
Step away from the keyboard.
PS. You are full of shit, there were many white and other non-Chinese students in HK and elsewhere by the '80s.
You must be veeery young…
There were non-Chinese Sifu by then…
Translation : I am going to cry to the mods like a little bitch
Yeah, that’s what I am going to do/ have done already.
Gaaaah, IIF, where are you when we need you?!
Anyway, you fail. Listen to the warnings and cooperate, or GTFO.
[quote=ChenPengFi;2368933]
PS. You are full of shit, there were many white and other non-Chinese students in HK and elsewhere by the '80s.
You must be veeery young…
There were non-Chinese Sifu by then…[/quote]
Sure he is. I wonder what his true kung fu is about, in the end. Moar BS?
Could be a whole variety of things, but irrelevant to the thread. Unless the thread is headed for trollshido. Either way fine with me. Less things for me to do at teh end of the year. 
[quote=Pilgrim;2368934]Yeah, that’s what I am going to do/ have done already.
Gaaaah, IIF, where are you when we need you?!
Anyway, you fail. Listen to the warnings and cooperate, or GTFO.[/quote]
thanks Russian Monkey but Fritz here started acting like he runs the place when he needs to get the fuck up off my nuts
Anyway, Fritz you are a crybaby I knew it from the get go, so get bent Fritz.
Like I said am I under Bullshido investigation for claiming I fought in HK?
Or Thailand?
no
am I selling video certified blackbelts?
no
so wtf ever
[quote=ChenPengFi;2368941]Buck Sam Kong taught foreigners openly since the '60s and printed his first book in the '70s.
Poor kid is off by a few decades…
…and we all know what it means when someone says they have “t34 r34l!!”[/quote]
the guys last name is Kong so wtf is your point?
[quote=MC Kwai;2368939].
Like I said am I under Bullshido investigation for claiming I fought in HK?
Or Thailand?
no
am I selling video certified blackbelts?
no
so wtf ever[/quote]
No you are making claims without providing proof.
Go read the forum rules fucknuts…