[QUOTE=ironcastknight;2582539]Words cannot express how glad I am that the Kodenkan instructor I train under is one of the apparently few ones who isn’t a complete asshole.[/QUOTE]
You mean Kodokan right…?
I was so hoping someone caught that SPECIFIC contradiction in his post. Oh and the pimping of his distance learning program.
[QUOTE=judoka_uk;2582570]You mean Kodokan right…?[/QUOTE]He covered himself here:
My purpose of joining this thread, and basically this site, is to respond to posts related to Danzan-Ryu Jujitsu, more appropriately called Kodenkan Jujitsu, Kodokan Judo, and anything Jujitsu style related really, tradition and modern.
According to google, these Dan zan ryu jujitsu characters market themselves with the word ‘kodenkan’ lol.
Oi, Dan Zan faggots, do you do randori and if so where can I find the best example of your style in the UK?
I want to do a Kodokan vs Kodenkan battle, lol.
Isn’t Wally Jays son in London? Not the same admittedly but hey.
Quick google:
And appending san to your own name, tsk indeed sir, TSK.
[QUOTE=Styygens;2582568]Yep, I regret asking.
You do realize you’re admitting to having some serious rules imposed in those scenarios, don’t you?
And gi vs no-gi??? Why can’t I know both kinds of techniques and use my opponent’s clothes to my advantage? I don’t meet many naked people during the course of my day – fewer still are the naked people threatening me with violence.[/QUOTE]
You never know.
You know what else has no rules? Hacky sack.
To the OP: I made this point once before, last year I think.
Throw aside all this discussion about street technique vs. sport technique. The biggest reason you will lose to someone training for the ring is because they are training like an ATHLETE. That makes them stronger, faster and more durable. If I get into a fight with an NFL/NBA player who’s my same weight, and he has no MA training whatsover, I’m still going to lose, badly. If it’s a fight to the death, he will kill me. He’ll be stronger, faster and better at moving his body.
I’m a hobbyist martial artist who enjoys some sparring or maybe entering the occasional local amateur Kyokushin tournie, and I have no delusions about my limitations. Ring sport competitors, on the other hand, are ATHLETES (see above) who are also training fighting techniques (probably superior to yours, from the sound of it). They’ll win in the ring, and they’ll win in the street, almost 100% of the time, unless they happen upon another equal athlete/practitioner.
OP is a douche. Irrespective of his martial prowess, his wall of text hurt my brain.
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You never know.[/QUOTE]
If I time travel back in time to Ancient Celt-dominated Europe, I’ll let you know how it all works out.
Would there be any point in showing the OP that most of the empty hand techniques systems used by cops and soldiers, that is, people who encounter life and death situations on a semi regular basis, are drawn from judo, bjj, and wrestling, or has his canoe of knowledge already been pulled over the waterfall of ignorance by the current of delusion?1
[QUOTE=Southpaw;2582516]It is always interesting to me when people talk about “sport” BJJ and how it is not lethal and made for killing.
Last time I checked…once you put someone to sleep…it is very easy to kill them. Really hold onto the choke for an extra minute and you’re there.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much all grappling is about getting a dominant position and proving that you have it (pin, submission, pointing to the other guy and going “see, he’s not awake any more”). In a real fight, instead of proving that you have the dominant position you just tear the other person apart and they can’t do anything because you have the position of control.
The problem with a lot of these “self-defense” martial arts is that they just give you a magic bullet for grappling (grab his balls, poke out the eyes, bite him) and then they don’t test it because you can’t test it when they should just be hunkering down, taking some lumps and actually figuring out how to wrestle.
Kyusho Jitsu, I’ve run into that before. (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=100387&highlight=).
I had a pretty bad experience with that style corysan.
Some questions for you, considering your mindset on rules vs No rules training - how does the wonderful sport of Judo mix into your style? Is Ne-Waza fighting realistic to you? The point I’m trying to make is, if you believe No Rule combat preparation is the way to go, Why train judo?
Out of curiosity, have you ever seen or heard of this man?
Kyusho in action. What are your opinions on this style of Randori? Do your methods or training look similar to this?
I just want to clarify, that I know you trained 20 years in Judo and JJ, so everything I ask is merely out of wanting to understand your perspective.
Having never had to take part in combat (thankfully), I will happily stand corrected but I would have thought that the existence of notions like rules of engagement and war crimes would imply that combat does indeed have rules…
OP, if i understand correctly, in theory, if you met Mike Tyson in a dark alley, and he intended to stomp on your children’s testicles… you would kill him?
[QUOTE=Styygens;2582568] I don’t meet many naked people during the course of my day – fewer still are the naked people threatening me with violence.[/QUOTE]
I’m always being threatened by naked people…guess I should keep the hell away from the ladies changeing rooms
[QUOTE=erezb;2582778]OP, if i understand correctly, in theory, if you met Mike Tyson in a dark alley, and he intended to stomp on your children’s testicles… you would kill him?[/QUOTE]
Totally off the subject, I think it’s odd/funny that although Iron Mike has long past his prime or any relevance in the boxing world, he’s still held as the gold standard for vicious brawler who will kick your ass. Mike is gonna kill you and eat your children. Praise be to Allah.
The OP is not worth a reply. This thread is now about Mike Tyson.
I train a style that has all the pros and cons of other RBSD sytems and I believe it to be …well, deadly! It’s cliched, but my trainer has delivered such pain to me over the years that I dont doubt it. But it does lack the spontanaity, and combat conditioning of free sparing, so I would not dream of training in it exclusivly.
I am glad I came to San Soo after already traing in more sports orientated styles. I would not recomend a complete novice take it up.
I do enjoy this sudden rise in “don’t take this art as a beginner.” In another thread the deadly RBSder trotted out the wing chun and Tai Chi it takes years to master.
Then go take boxing.
[QUOTE=It is Fake;2582783]I do enjoy this sudden rise in “don’t take this art as a beginner.” In another thread the deadly RBSder trotted out the wing chun and Tai Chi it takes years to master.
Then go take boxing.[/QUOTE]
First, the fact that you imply that it takes less time to master boxing than it does other styles shows ignorance regarding boxing.
Second, what’s “RBSD” and pls pardon my ignorance 
[QUOTE=hapkido_keith;2582780]Totally off the subject, I think it’s odd/funny that although Iron Mike has long past his prime or any relevance in the boxing world, he’s still held as the gold standard for vicious brawler who will kick your ass. Mike is gonna kill you and eat your children. Praise be to Allah.
The OP is not worth a reply. This thread is now about Mike Tyson.[/QUOTE]
I find Tyson to be a gifted Boxer, with a beautiful powerful style, especially when you consider he is only 5/11!! And he is a good example for all these conman saying their style is so deadly. Or that they have nothing to prove when you invite them to the ring, but, they could easily kill a boxer or kickboxer…