Reminder: boxing is dangerous

Women have definitely made inroads into the Sweet Science Of Bruising.

They train at hardcore boxing gyms and get respect. They compete professionally.

This was bound to happen eventually.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/more/04/04/boxer.death.ap/index.html?cnn=yes

DENVER (AP) – A female boxer who died from injuries sustained in a Colorado Golden Gloves boxing match this weekend is believed to be the first woman to die in an amateur boxing match in the United States.

Becky Zerlentes, 34, of Fort Collins died Sunday afternoon, said Howard Daniel of the Denver County coroner’s office. A preliminary cause of death was blunt force trauma to the head. Results from an autopsy conducted Monday were not immediately available.

Zerlentes was hit by a punch by her opponent, Heather Schmitz, and despite wearing protective headgear, fell unconscious to the canvas during the third round of her match late Saturday, USA Boxing spokeswoman Julie Goldsticker said.

Ringside physicians jumped into the ring but Zerlentes never regained consciousness and died several hours later at a hospital.

Zerlentes, who had a 6-4 record, was married.

“The USA Boxing family’s thoughts and prayers go out to Becky’s family and husband; we are deeply saddened by this loss,” USA Boxing president Sandy Martinez-Pino said.

USA Boxing is the sanctioning body for amateur boxing. The organization lifted its ban on women in 1993 and currently has 2,200 registered participants.

Goldsticker said the last death at a USA Boxing sanctioned event happened in February 2001 when heavyweight Quinton Grier, 31, of Springfield, Ill., died after his match.

It was bound to happen, there was a female “toughman” competitor that died a couple of years ago.
This is the first death in a SANCTIONED event though.

Everyone is aware of the dangers of boxing.

Aye, my love for the sport is often contradicted by the fact that no matter how mcuh security meassures you take, once in a while shit happens… as in every sport I guess.

Oh, well, sorry for the woman who died, may she rest in peace,a nd my condolences to the family.

So, what is it exactly that causes death in some boxing matches? There are a lot of boxing matches, and in most cases people don’t die, obviously. What happens differently in the matches where someone does die?

Is there a doctor in the house?

In the end, no matter HOW you look at it, no matter how much you can try to sugar coat it, Boxing is about inflicting pain, its about driving your fist into the head and body of another human being to HURT them, to punch them into an state where they can’t fight back or even lose consiosness.
Boxing is a fighting sport, pain and physical damage are the results.

most likely brain swelling, or rupture of some sort.

lots of variables,

skull thickness, how much padding your brain has, how small or big your veins and vessels are, how strong the veins and shit are, how hard they get it, how many times they get it, prior injurys… etc… etc… shit like that. There are some studies on the net somewhere done over in the UK ( I think UK not sure though) that show that bareknuckle fights have less injuries like this, they tend to be on the superficial side, or the likes of breaks and dislocations.

Bareknuckle fighters may average 10 punches a round, where as gloved fighters can go to 100 per round.
Note: the above comparison is for illustrative purposes only.

6-4 record? I think that means that she wasn’t a ‘novice’ anymore and was in the open division, where she could have faced just about anyone with more than 10 wins.
Though I’m not exactly sure what the exact rules were.

I would hope that every boxer that steps through those ropes, amateur or professional, understands the possibility of injury. That doesn’t make this kind of thing suck any less for the people who knew her however.
That really, really, really sucks.
RIP.

Just wanted to mention; on the fight I went to last Thursday, the first three bouts ended in the first round for the guys, and the first bout to go the distance were the ladies that competed. One of them was like 35 or something like that, and I ended up going out of my way to shake her hand because I was deeply impressed by the heart she showed.
Plus female boxers are hot (sometimes).

shit yeah. pretty much any girl that wants to date me is going to have to learn how to take a punch, at least without running to the fucking cops all the time.

I’ve always had a problem with boxing commisions trying to ban MMA events in thier states by citing the barbarity and inherent danger when it is quite obvious that boxing is more dangerous. It seems to me that if MMA organizers would gather data on the # of boxing deaths every year and use that as ammunition they would stop boxing commisions. But yeah…its all about money, not facts or logic.

You know what is the issue with MMA ?
The GnP, nothing else.
Its not the chokes, the broken arms, the ko’s, its the vision of the GnP.

Zerlentes was hit by a punch by her opponent, Heather Schmitz, and despite wearing protective headgear, fell unconscious to the canvas during the third round of her match late Saturday

There can be only one.

In boxing this is more true than you know.

In cases like this there is a very sad tendency to try to find a reason to blame the victim. I guess it makes people feel better to let them think it can’t happen to them. The truth is, it can happen to anybody.

Sad.

And it ultimately frightens a lot of people away from boxing who are looking for viable self defense training.

Number of things…I’d put my money on a brain hemorrhage which caused compression or swelling though.

It has to be awful having to live with the fact you killed your opponent in the fight…the family I can’t even begin to imagine.

Sad case of mis-adventure

It is interesting that boxing gloves were introduced not to protect the person getting hit but to protect the hitters hands. I think a lot of people of get into boxing don’t really contemplate the consequences of what can happen. I am a boxing fan but one of the reasons that differs boxing from other combat sports is that the main target in boxing is the head and the object is to knock out the other guy. Getting knocked out or having your head thumped repeatedly is not the best thing for your you. Try repeatedly hitting your head off a wall. Other combar sports allow winning through other ways and therefore strikes to the head are not employed to the same extent.

When UFC was first introduced it was bareknuckle and in UFC since the introduction of gloves knockouts have increased. UFC looks much more brutal but there have been no serious injuries in UFC type events.

Safety gear can be a bad thing as you take more punishment and throw a harder punch than you could do without the gear on. I would like to see boxing go back to how it used to be originally i.e. pugulism!!!


All over the news
http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/sports/11320678.htm
http://www.insidedenver.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3678823,00.html
http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2005/04/06/sports/sports/2a0fb575c48f6f0786256fdb001018bc.txt
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05096/483536.stm
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/story/3EB21A2FDDF76EEF86256FDA007DB0BE?OpenDocument
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/4350516/detail.html
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20050405-1522-box-womanboxerdies.html
http://www.chom.com/content/cp_article.asp?id=/global_feeds/CanadianPress/SportsNews/s040555A.htm
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/040505_nw-_boxer_dies.html
http://wokv.com/common/ap/2005/04/05/D899HCAO1.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/06/sports/othersports/06boxing.html?ex=1113364800&en=ceddb50e10e59c89&ei=5099&partner=TOPIXNEWS
http://www.900chml.com/news/news.cfm?dir=sports&file=s040525A&n=2
http://www.nynewsday.com/sports/boxing/sns-ap-box-woman-boxer-dies,0,6694353.story?coll=nyc-sportshome-headlines
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2005-04-05-zerlentes-obit_x.htm?csp=34
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/59-04052005-472264.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28298-2005Apr5.html
http://www.oregonnews.com/article/20050405/SPORTS/50405057

Ok there are more but I don’t want to post them.

I agree that MMA is probably safer than boxing for a lot of the reasons you mentioned, but the “there have been no serious injuries” doesn’t hold really true anymore. I would call broken limbs serious, e.g. Tim Silvia vs Frank Mir. That was a career threatening injury, and wasn’t the first time something like that happened. Joints and tendons have been being snapped since the beginning of the sport.

Even the fact that there has been no one killed in MMA, while boxing has 5 deaths a year, can be largely explained by comparing the number of boxing matches to MMA fights. There are literally thousands, possibly millions, of more boxers out there than MMA fighters. It’s just a fact. If the numbers were equal we really don’t know what the death rate would be.

I also believe that while boxing has the potential to cause more long term damage, if something should go wrong in a MMA fight there is a potential for the injury to be much, much worse. Million Dollar Baby aside, I haven’t seen too many boxers slammed on their head an neck, e.g. Randleman vs Fedor.

R.I.P.