[QUOTE=It is Fake;3017321]Polls tend to be bullshit. You should know this by now.[/QUOTE]
Correct again.
Fake may be a Pussy in real life.
He may have been a Pussy his entire life.
But he is not stupid.
I am on record with this, previously.
[QUOTE=It is Fake;3040640]Cute, but no.
People single out and discuss only one point all of the time.
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Sure, but that is only useful to discuss social issues in an unrealistic vacuum.
Social issues fall under the domain of complexity, and in domains of complexity, linear analysis fails spectacularly because of the extremely high number of interaction between variables.
What’s more, discussion of issues in a vacuum is also useful up until the point when we discuss triage, or prioritization, or funding, at which point the individual issue’s place in context of the broader picture again becomes required.
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People discuss gang shootings, you’ve done it on this website, without EVER discussing Mass Shootings.
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When we discuss firearm homicides, gang violence is a lion’s share of the pie category.
When we discuss the type of mass shootings that you address, that is a 1% of the pie category.
And again, when we are discussing the importance of category, which we should when we discuss a given category, we should address it’s prevalence,
as well as the probability that a successful strategy could mitigate the problem,
and what the cost / trade offs to implement that mitigation strategy would be,
and what the pay off would be,
and how that pay off stacks up to other pay offs with regards to taking those same time and resources to address other issues.
In that sense, addressing mass shootings out of context is as irrational as discussing murders by immigrants outside of the context of murders overall, and murders by immigrants as a percentage of overall population and the overall murder rate.
1% of firearm murders are mass shootings,
and immigrants are arrested for violent crimes in the U.S. in lower percentages than native born Americans.
Therefore making mass shootings a louder discussion point than the bulk category of murders is just as irrational
as making murders by immigrants a louder discussion point than the bulk category of murderers in the U.S., which is native born American murderers.
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So, no, you can discuss one type of shooting without delving into poverty, gangs, length, amount or Chicago.
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And Ghost can make racist comments.
Just because one can do something is no assurance that one is doing something in a superior or even worthwhile fashion.
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I, nor the OP, said “how do we curb gun violence” or “ why are there so many Mass Shootings.” Then everything you tried to bring in is relevant.
Right now, you are engaged in but what about Chicago.[/QUOTE]
Right now I am engaged in pointing out that It is Fake is a silly pussy, who says stupid things with a higher frequency than some people realize.
That started with your requesting dialogue on Chicago for comparison, and then crying when you got it, and then trying to act like you were being shrewd instead of just another goofball running his mouth.
[QUOTE=Dr. Gonzo;3040653]Sure, but that is only useful to discuss social issues in an unrealistic vacuum.
Social issues fall under the domain of complexity, and in domains of complexity, linear analysis fails spectacularly because of the extremely high number of interaction between variables.
What’s more, discussion of issues in a vacuum is also useful up until the point when we discuss triage, or prioritization, or funding, at which point the individual issue’s place in context of the broader picture again becomes required.
When we discuss firearm homicides, gang violence is a lion’s share of the pie category.
When we discuss the type of mass shootings that you address, that is a 1% of the pie category.
And again, when we are discussing the importance of category, which we should when we discuss a given category, we should address it’s prevalence,
as well as the probability that a successful strategy could mitigate the problem,
and what the cost / trade offs to implement that mitigation strategy would be,
and what the pay off would be,
and how that pay off stacks up to other pay offs with regards to taking those same time and resources to address other issues.
In that sense, addressing mass shootings out of context is as irrational as discussing murders by immigrants outside of the context of murders overall, and murders by immigrants as a percentage of overall population and the overall murder rate.
1% of firearm murders are mass shootings,
and immigrants are arrested for violent crimes in the U.S. in lower percentages than native born Americans.
Therefore making mass shootings a louder discussion point than the bulk category of murders is just as irrational
as making murders by immigrants a louder discussion point than the bulk category of murderers in the U.S., which is native born American murderers.
And Ghost can make racist comments.
Just because one can do something is no assurance that one is doing something in a superior or even worthwhile fashion.
Right now I am engaged in pointing out that It is Fake is a silly pussy, who says stupid things with a higher frequency than some people realize.
That started with your requesting dialogue on Chicago for comparison, and then crying when you got it, and then trying to act like you were being shrewd instead of just another goofball running his mouth.[/QUOTE]
No, you want dialogue on Chicago. I made no request, but do keep trolling.
[QUOTE=It is Fake;3040710]No, you want dialogue on Chicago. I made no request, but do keep trolling.[/QUOTE]
We can change the topic to the other cities Joe mentioned, such as Los Angeles, NYC, and DC.
Or this list of the most dangerous U.S. cities:
St Louis, Missouri
Detroit, Michigan
Memphis, Tennessee
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Baltimore, Maryland
Oakland, California
Kansas City, Missouri
Stockton, California
Cleveland, Ohio
Indianapolis, Indiana
Washington, D.C.
Toledo, Ohio
Atlanta, Georgia
Buffalo, New York
Nashville, Tennessee
Newark, New Jersey
Anchorage, Alaska
Minneapolis, Minnesota
Miami, Florida
Wichita, Kansas
New Orleans, Louisiana
Orlando, Florida
The murder rate of St. Louis, Baltimore, Detroit, and New Orleans is a more concerning issue for me than that of “mass shootings” of the type you describe.
Because of volume, and numbers.
Here is a pretty good list of cities with a high murder rate:
https://bismarcktribune.com/news/national/the-cities-with-the-highest-murder-rates-in-the-us/
I would note that my brother and uncle were cops in Chester, the #2 murder city on that list, and I spent several years living in Toby Farms there as a child in a row home.
It was not a nice place from a U.S. perspective.
But, nice compared to an international poverty perspective, say the favelas of Rio or the shanty towns in Haiti, or side streets off of Pat Pong on Bangkok.
Everything is relative.
[QUOTE=Dr. Gonzo;3040653]It is Fake is a silly pussy[/QUOTE]
If Fake was the mod that moved these posts, then the point above was proven well enough.
You silly, sensitive, goose.
Yes. It was me. This is how I troll. You aren’t the first, nor will you be the last. Notice, when you get butthurt, “ii is fake is a pussy” comes out.
I was going to move them all, back in February, but i knew you’d lose it again.
I enjoy watching you lose your shit.
Yes, your hurt feelings are proven again.
[QUOTE=It is Fake;3040715]Yes. It was me. This is how I troll. You aren’t the first, nor will you be the last. Notice, when you get butthurt “ii is fake is a pussy” comes out.
I enjoy watching you lose your shit.[/QUOTE]
I point out that you are pussy routinely, as a best practice.
And if you rely on your mod powers to “troll”, then by all means, use whatever mulligans that you feel you require to be able to keep up.
[QUOTE=It is Fake;3040715]
I was going to move them all, back in February, but i knew you’d lose it again.
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I see you added this comment.
Go ahead and move any and all of my past and current posts to Trollshido, if that makes you feel better about yourself.
I find your need to do so amusing.
The old neighbourhood, someone get this guy a drink!
The old neighbourhood, someone get this guy a drink!
[QUOTE=Ulsteryank;3040857]The old neighbourhood, someone get this guy a drink!
I nominate for Badass of the What?
[QUOTE=submessenger;3040870]I nominate for Badass of the What?[/QUOTE]
Not letting punks, do punk moves week?