[QUOTE=ghost55;3033096]40% of trans people successfully commit suicide. Of course they aren’t the majority of suicide victims, they’re .5% of the population.[/QUOTE]
No, Ghost, 40% of the Trans population reports they have made a suicide attempt (but they are still around to report it).
Every year, 68% to 78% of the successful suicides in the United States are committed by straight, white, males,
with the highest rate among middle aged, straight, white, males, and most often by using a firearm.
In fact, the demographics that are the most likely to report suicidal ideations, and suicide attempts, which include members of the transgender population, the gay population, and the female population
are not the most likely to actually successfully commit suicide,
perhaps in part due to the fact they are willing to talk about their suicidal ideations,
although that last point (willingness to talk being causative in prevention rather than merely highly correlated) is pure conjecture on my part.
[QUOTE=ghost55;3033098]You’re advocating against people because you seem to know what you think you know what is best for people experience something that you never have and never will, and make those judgments with a total inability to understand the context that you are missing. If you can mental gymnastics your way into believing that you actually mean well you’re even more delusional than I thought.[/QUOTE]
No, you merely are not aware of what you don’t know regarding data driven medicine, or the medical statistics surrounding these different populations that are often all crammed under the “trans” umbrella.
This is actually a pretty complicated problem set, and several different demographics, within the so called trans community, that all have some widely different outcome characteristics.
The idea that there is such a thing a one trans community, as if that community had homogeneous characteristics, is false.
[QUOTE=ghost55;3033091]And I can promise you that the entire fucking trans community would think you were a shithead if you told them that. You aren’t getting it. You really, really aren’t. Or you’re being deliberately obtuse because you just don’t give a fuck and are comfortable being such a twat because you view certain people as sub-human and beneath you. People like you make the world a worse place and are too smug to understand that fact. I’m just glad that you didn’t have any trans kids, because would have probably pushed them to suicide at this point[/QUOTE]
You understand, don’t you, that spewing hot cusses and vilifying those who disagree with you did not make you look like the sane advocate of science.
[QUOTE=Dr. Gonzo;3033101]No, Ghost, 40% of the Trans population reports they have made a suicide attempt (but they are still around to report it).
Every year, 68% to 78% of the successful suicides in the United States are committed by straight, white, males,
with the highest rate among middle aged, straight, white, males, and most often by using a firearm.
In fact, the demographics that are the most likely to report suicidal ideations, and suicide attempts, which include members of the transgender population, the gay population, and the female population
are not the most likely to actually successfully commit suicide,
perhaps in part due to the fact they are willing to talk about their suicidal ideations,
although that last point (willingness to talk being causative in prevention rather than merely highly correlated) is pure conjecture on my part.[/QUOTE]
Guys are just better at getting shit done. Girls are better at talking about it.
It would make sense that the trans population that is better at completing suicides would be women that say they should have been born as men.
[QUOTE=AprilRains;3033106]You understand, don’t you, that spewing hot cusses and vilifying those who disagree with you did not make you look like the sane advocate of science.[/QUOTE]
Go through his posts, he doesn’t get his own hypocrisy and Irony. He’s calling someone out for shit he has done and continues to do.
Making a serious argument with Dr. Gonzo is a waste of time because his mind is made up and he’s not going to change it.
Ghosts55, you’ve been in Portland for too long.
Nothing up my sleeve…presto
[QUOTE=Mr. Machette;3033117]Ghosts55, you’ve been in Portland for too long.[/QUOTE]
Okay boomer.
[QUOTE=ghost55;3033114]Making a serious argument with Dr. Gonzo is a waste of time because his mind is made up and he’s not going to change it.[/QUOTE]
I am presenting information for your consideration,
and have no desire to win an argument.
Regarding my own point of view,
it is entirely fluid based on data and evidence as it presents.
[QUOTE=Dr. Gonzo;3033119]I am presenting information for your consideration,
and have no desire to win an argument.
Regarding my own point of view,
it is entirely fluid based on data and evidence as it presents.[/QUOTE]
Your continued and repeated defenses of Trump suggest otherwise.
[QUOTE=ghost55;3033114]Making a serious argument with Dr. Gonzo is a waste of time because his mind is made up and he’s not going to change it.[/QUOTE]
It is hard, in this case, to differentiate your approach to debate from the one you claim he employs. Also, he’s presenting fairly calm arguments, with more substance than you’re presenting in the same discussion. What do you think an onlooker will take away from that?
[QUOTE=ghost55;3033120]Your continued and repeated defenses of Trump suggest otherwise.[/QUOTE]
Way to go off topic, buddy.
And what I think what you mean to say,
if you cared about being accurate,
is that I refuse to take a unilateral position of for or against President Trump,
I disagree with him strongly on some issues, but I agree with his policies in other areas
and I do not view President Trump as more concerning than his predecessors.
[QUOTE=ghost55;3033120]Your continued and repeated defenses of Trump suggest otherwise.[/QUOTE]
Ghost consider this, maybe it is better for people to understand and accept their limitations then live in fantasy… I cover myself in hot wood glue and attach myself to the wall… deep down I know I’m not a real salamander; and I have learned to be ok with that. It actually makes the whole experience more enjoyable.
[QUOTE=ghost55;3033118]Okay boomer.[/QUOTE]
I’m not even 40 you dumb cunt.
[QUOTE=Mr. Machette;3033128]I’m not even 40 you dumb cunt.[/QUOTE]
Being a Boomer is a state of mind. Hence the 30 year old boomer memes.
[QUOTE=ghost55;3033137]Congratulations on failing to understand what internet memes are.[/QUOTE]
The breakdown in communication begins with you not having anything of substance to contribute.
“Memes”?
How about you sit the next couple rounds out while the grownups talk?
@Ghost: Friendly advice: Stop white knighting. And I’m not only referring to this instance.
[QUOTE=Mr. Machette;3033138]The breakdown in communication begins with you not having anything of substance to contribute.
“Memes”?
How about you sit the next couple rounds out while the Boomers talk?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tranquil Suit;3033139]@Ghost: Friendly advice: Stop white knighting. And I’m not only referring to this instance.[/QUOTE]
I’ll stop when Dr. Gonzo stops being such a condescending twat. Any day now…
[QUOTE=ghost55;3033141]I’ll stop when Dr. Gonzo stops being such a condescending twat. Any day now…[/QUOTE]
I speak to the issue from a data driven, and physical science reality point of view.
If that bothers you, then it is data driven empiricism and the physical science realities bothers you.