Looking for ex Jung SuWon / Tae Yun Kim students

ADMIN EDIT: This is a link to the article on our Martial Arts Encyclopedia that summarizes some of the points this thread makes:
http://www.bullshido.org/martialarts/Tae_Yun_Kim

Hey everyone, I am new here. I was once a member of GM Kim’s Cult. I am investigating her background and trying to find out more specifically about her life as kyong ae fontaine in vermont, prior to California. Here is the info I have been posting prominentley around the net! Please help the cause. It may almost seem like a joke, but i swear it isn’t!
Clare

If you were a member of Jung SuWon, or the more elite COL, or even an
employee of Lighthouse Worldwide Solutions / Associates please contact
me. I am interested in hearing from you.

I am also a former member, I am interested in your story. There is all
mis-information out there on the net about her, stating all of the
canned PR “accolades” . Something else needs to be out there, I am
only one person with one set of travels with them. I want to hear what
you have to say.

There are a lot of us out there, most of us are scared, there isn’t any
reason to be.

Let’s balance the internet, every famous person out there has a slander
site, Paris Hilton, Tom Hanks, why doesn’t Tae Yun Kim. Why is she off
limits?

email me! or post here, clarehoare@gmail.com :new_olymp

The buddha-man needs to get off his fat ass and pump iron :pottytrai

http://sanjose.bizjournals.com/bizwomen/sanjose/content/feature/item.html?item_id=2113&feature_id=232

hahhah a lifetime of plastic surgery, karma, and collagen have caught up… so redeaming, she is finally getting hers!

Are you shitting me? Black Star Ninja’s entire organization was toppled by Michael Fucking Dudikoff! That hardly counts as “working.”

Oh, yeah, the topic of the thread. I live in Burlington, Vermont (though I’m in Japan until the end of Dec.). I was three in 1985, but if there’s anything I can do to help when I get back, I’d be glad to. Just let me know.

*Edited because I hit “Quote” on my previous post instead of “Edit.” I’m not nearly clever enough to need to quote myself.

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH HER HEAD?! :new_Eyecr

yes sir, this is her!

If our original poster is still looking for information you might try Budoseek in addition to e-budo. There are several people on the board from around that area and may know of something that might help your search.

from reading some of this it seems like information that definately should be out there. I wish you alot of luck in your search…

Jason

What happened to the “Tae Yun Kim Grows Old” thread? :question: i

Hey everyone… The saga continues!

I just recently learned that Tae Yun Kim (likely due to her failing health, and looking for a new breath of members), has started up a group called “Yong Sa Nation”

They (her companies) have retained the ownership rights to yongsanation.com as of 09-Feb-06

It appears they are going to try and start a viral marketing system, through myspace to market their psedo myspace website, that will offer “life-assistance” from ‘grandmaster’ kim and her proxies.

This is quite disturbing because it sounds like they are going to try and recruit children through their website!!

Please contact me with any info you have!

Are you equating the word “yong” with “young”? I don’t know a word of Korean, but you sound like you know some, so please translate what this “yong sa” term means…

As for myspace.com, it is in a gray area due to all the child molestation that has happened due to contacts predators make on line, the Feds are looking into it, and parents are aware of the dangers of letting their kids go there.

THere are so many life assistance crap outfits out there, I rather doubt this will have much success.

Wow!There are a lot of people here who have Blogs I think on Myspace.Maybe soem of them might be able to do something.

That is dangerous, especially with all the emo-types on that site.

Don’t look for me on there though, I tend to stay away from any online personals type site. Plus it’s fodder for SomethingAwful.com and companies scouting college students out.

Clare, the independant accounts of people who have attended her dojang and seen the same ‘odd’ practices, not least that one of the accounts is from 1992, plus the media investigation into cultism, are compelling evidence that supports your concerns.

If you can quote (and reference) several third party’s experiences added to your own inside knowledge, you will have a compelling article.

Also, she’s not on Wikipedia, that’s another place you could do battle - but you need to amass the information first as her chronies could swamp you.

[QUOTE=clarehoare]Hey everyone… The saga continues!

I just recently learned that Tae Yun Kim (likely due to her failing health, and looking for a new breath of members), has started up a group called “Yong Sa Nation”

They (her companies) have retained the ownership rights to yongsanation.com as of 09-Feb-06

It appears they are going to try and start a viral marketing system, through myspace to market their psedo myspace website, that will offer “life-assistance” from ‘grandmaster’ kim and her proxies.

This is quite disturbing because it sounds like they are going to try and recruit children through their website!!

I don’t know if you’re a mole inside this group, but you seem to be on top of what’s happening there.

Judging from the recent picture of her that you posted, she does appear ill, so I wonder just how long she or this new group will last. If the apparently charismatic leader of this group passes away, the others probably won’t be able to carry the torch with any effectiveness.

My understanding is that yong sa means warrior.

Well that is scary.

Are they breeding a militia, a private army, a subculture, or what?

This could branch out and be something really dangerous if it comes to pass.

My feeling is that she is interested in recruiting new, younger leaders for her group. I don’t think her current group of people has any natural born leaders… and her recruited base’s average age has got a lot older!

So my feeling is she is using it to find a maleable leader.

Originally Posted by Nightstrike
“If it is a cult, its the psychology of it.
It doesn’t have to be rational.”

That is the more or less of it. I’ll also send you guys some “rationale” in private messages.

Originally Posted by miguksaram
PM me if you would like. I want more information about yourself as well, prior to looking into this. Thanks

Me too please. Getting sick feeling in pit of stomach, require info as above to dispel or reinforce ta very much. The lack of openness is leading me to suspect very bad shit please put my mind at rest. Storming_china’s missing friend tale from a first time poster especially bad- you get the feeling its someone researching this…organisation to see if they can find their friend and stumbled across this thread. My normally less than sensitive self is appalled.

I ask the following questions since you seem to be an insider Clarehoare…

If this is some group of “warriors” - what are they warrioring about anyway?

What is the purpose of the group, their game plan, as it were, and what is a new leader expected to do.

Maybe I’m missing the point, but I don’t understand what these people are all about…if she’s looking for fresh blood and bypassing her current group, and as you state, the current base is aging, then she too is aging.

How old is she anyway?