Longslide... tell me more.

[QUOTE=Devil;3026557]I’d bet money you can’t shoot a pistol well enough for there to be any measurable accuracy for you due to increased slide length. That’s not a stab at you. That’s true for the vast majority of people. A good shooter can shoot lights out with a tiny pocket pistol. Most humans are more likely to hit their target with a rock than with a pistol.

Long slides look fucking cool, though.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking along the same line in terms of ability to make use of (if) any better accuracy from the longer sight radius.

I thought longer barrel = better accuracy (other than increased sight radius) was a myth anyway. Pretty sure it is on scoped rifles…

[QUOTE=BKR;3026584]Here ya go…talk about “boom”
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/797900640[/QUOTE]

Not happening, not only am I not starting a bid at that much, but the barrel is only 5"…

Edit: Hahahahahahhahahahahah, you got me, I missed for a second that it was a double barrel. I can’t show this to my father, he’ll buy it in a second.

[QUOTE=BKR;3026588]I was thinking along the same line in terms of ability to make use of (if) any better accuracy from the longer sight radius.

I thought longer barrel = better accuracy (other than increased sight radius) was a myth anyway. Pretty sure it is on scoped rifles…[/QUOTE]

It’s not a myth. In fact it makes perfect sense, because of physics. I posted this way back at the start of the thread, but my bad for not annotating it. I was late for an important date.

Virtues of a Long Slide Pistol
https://blog.stealthgearusa.com/glock-40-long-slide-pistol/

[QUOTE=Devil;3026592][BULLY][/BULLY]

I mean, it’s going to work like shit half the time but you’ll look like a badass.[/QUOTE]

Here’s where I need to grill you.

“half the time”, so you’re suggesting the failure rate of the action is 50%? I can prove that wrong with engineering charts, Devil.

What do you REALLY mean. And before we begin…yes I’ve read all your previous rants about the 1911. I’d like real data, please.

A lot has been written on the subject, I’m sure you know all this already.

1911 Reliability Secrets
http://sightm1911.com/lib/tech/reliability_secrets.htm

I think I could make a convincing case that the US might have lost WWII if your claim about the 1911 model was true, even in the face of FAR superior German ballistics engineering.

Maybe you have a prejudice against it because it actually requires more maintenance, care, and feeding than the average? That much is obvious.

[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;3026594]Not happening, not only am I not starting a bid at that much, but the barrel is only 5"…

Edit: Hahahahahahhahahahahah, you got me, I missed for a second that it was a double barrel. I can’t show this to my father, he’ll buy it in a second.[/QUOTE]

You are slipping…

Well, sounds like a plan. He buys it, you can borrow it…

[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;3026596]It’s not a myth. In fact it makes perfect sense, because of physics. I posted this way back at the start of the thread, but my bad for not annotating it. I was late for an important date.

Virtues of a Long Slide Pistol
https://blog.stealthgearusa.com/glock-40-long-slide-pistol/[/QUOTE]

I read several articles. Regarding sight radius, you hold the pistol at arms length anyway, so the 1" or so difference in slide length (I guess unless you go really long) is negligible.

Any increased accuracy seems to be derived from a slower/softer recoil impulse rather than the effect of more steel due to longer barrel.

With your eyes, I bet you wouldn’t be able to tell much difference.

So, just cave in to your aesthetic whims/desire, dude, no need to justify it.

If I had the money, I’d have a whole fucking collection of Farquharson-style rifles, Ruger #1s, and Drillings…

Most of which would be too valuable to do the kind of hunting I do.


Anyway, to stay on topic…

Yeah, here ya go…needs moar color case-hardening, but…
https://www.fusionfirearms.com/gallery/

[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;3026594]Not happening, not only am I not starting a bid at that much, but the barrel is only 5"…

Edit: Hahahahahahhahahahahah, you got me, I missed for a second that it was a double barrel. I can’t show this to my father, he’ll buy it in a second.[/QUOTE]

//youtu.be/XCOQf12y3kw

Keep you hands out of you pants…

//youtu.be/3tEYcUSQDyw

[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;3026599]I think I could make a convincing case that the US might have lost WWII if your claim about the 1911 model was true, even in the face of FAR superior German ballistics engineering.

Maybe you have a prejudice against it because it actually requires more maintenance, care, and feeding than the average? That much is obvious.[/QUOTE]

It’s a vanity buy for you, Mr. No It all.

You’d have a better chance if you made the same argument in favor of the M-1 Garand…and the B-17

[QUOTE=Devil;3026614]1911s don’t perform great with suppressors either.[/QUOTE]

I think a drilling with .223 Rem. over a 12 gauge, both suppressed, would be perfect.

I’m sure the Germans could design some sort of rotating suppressor, controlled with a dial from the buttstock end of the rifle…

Here is your shoulder “stock”… hmm, maybe not for 1911.

I know there are vintage ones for 1911 around.
http://www.recoilweb.com/usa-1shot-non-nfa-butt-stock-for-your-handgun-69131.html

[QUOTE=BKR;3026616]It’s a vanity buy for you, Mr. No It all.

You’d have a better chance if you made the same argument in favor of the M-1 Garand…and the B-17[/QUOTE]

According to many accounts the 1911 is a reliable firearm when you are trained to take care of it, which most don’t. The absolute FIRST THING I plan to do with my new Longslide is learn to take it apart and put it back together and clean every part.

It’s not as if it just locks up all the time. For that to happen it has to be 1) defective or 2) undermaintained.

The M1 had all sorts of issues too, for the same reasons. They got full of mud, grease, sweat, blood, and semen. That last one is where I’m guessing Devil’s animus against the 1911 comes from.

Does size matter? Five long-slide 1911s say ‘yes’
https://www.guns.com/news/2013/11/05/size-matters-six-longslide-1911s

Mmmmh…tell me what you think, 6" barrel, 10mm…under budget.

https://www.springfield-armory.com/products/1911-trp-10mm/#PC9610L18

[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;3026622]According to many accounts the 1911 is a reliable firearm when you are trained to take care of it, which most don’t. The absolute FIRST THING I plan to do with my new Longslide is learn to take it apart and put it back together and clean every part.

It’s not as if it just locks up all the time. For that to happen it has to be 1) defective or 2) undermaintained.

The M1 had all sorts of issues too, for the same reasons. They got full of mud, grease, sweat, blood, and semen. That last one is where I’m guessing Devil’s animus against the 1911 comes from.[/QUOTE]

Right, 1911s, like anything else, require proper maintenance. And of course you will do that properly. In any case, it’s a long slide, and you won’t be carrying it around in your pants anyway. Kind of a moot point, really.

The military grade ones I’ve handled were pretty “loose”. Which helps with them not malfunctioning when dirty, including Devil Jizz…

I say get a longslide 1911, mini-red-dot/holo sight, plus or minus suppressor and shoulder support, but definitely with custom shoulder holster. Like, Ostrich or shark skin. Hell, go for broke with Anaconda/python…
http://www.andrewsleather.com/exotic/holsters.html#

Hell yeah…
https://weaponseducationholsters.com/products/exotic-python-vertical-shoulder-holster

[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;3026624]Mmmmh…tell me what you think, 6" barrel, 10mm…under budget.

https://www.springfield-armory.com/products/1911-trp-10mm/#PC9610L18[/QUOTE]

Well, a vanity 1911 deserves a vanity, expensive cartridge, so I think 10 mm is a good choice in that respect.

Not enough bling, IMO, on that one though. You need color case-hardening and an exotic wood grip.

I guess you could get the basics, then spend money as you go on customizing, though.

If this is supposed to be fun though, a cheaper cartridge might be better.

Here, this one is around $1200. 6", 9x19mm
Understated, but you can bling it out as you go if so desired.
https://www.fusionfirearms.com/freedom-series-long-slide-3744

[QUOTE=BKR;3026626]Dude, just get what you want and can afford.

You are a big guy, you can easily carry a 6" or 7" (or longer?) slide 1911 easily in a fancy shoulder holster.

If you want reliability, get a long-slide Glock or something similar. Then you can get one of those cool shoulder-support “stocks” I linked.[/QUOTE]

This one looks nice. Even comes in a NJ model, in case I ever bring it here.

https://www.glockstore.com/Glock-24-Long-Slide-Safe-Action-40SW-AS

[QUOTE=submessenger;3026553]I keep telling myself the $200 is worth it. Still haven’t bought, but I really want one. Continued stories of good experience help.[/QUOTE]I have a CMMG conversion kit as well. I used it a lot, until a gunsmith used a bore scope to show me what it was doing to my gas port and gas block . . . Tried to use an adjustable to cut off flow, but it didn’t really help much. Then there’s all the crap that ends up in your lower, which is mostly just an annoyance. Long cleaning sessions can help but that’s a lot of time lost to save a little money up front.

Lesson learned: building a dedicated .22 upper at some point. The CMMG kit will not go to waste, as it will be the heart of the new upper. Will probably go with a pretty short barrel to go with an SBRed lower or pistol and dedicate one of my .22 cans to it. Should be a fun little gun for plinking.

[QUOTE=Cassius;3026638]Lesson learned: building a dedicated .22 upper at some point.[/QUOTE]

I might do that, too. Was seriously thinking about starting a 300 blackout next month, but a 22 upper would be more immediate fun.

[QUOTE=Devil;3026665]In other words, they work fine as long as you’re a mad scientist with awesome luck.[/QUOTE]I own a very nice 45 cal suppressor (Liberty Cosmic, highly underrated) and 0 threaded barrel 1911s. I suppress just about everything I own, and I own a 1911. I suppose that is all there is to say on the matter from my perspective.