JPRMT - Keep Getting Hit Up By This Dude To Remove Posts

[battlefields1]

Hey y’all, member named JPRMT keeps asking me over message to delete posts on some thread and won’t put it in the Support Forum.

Hello Sir/Ma’am

I am the John Perone referred to in this link

https://www.bullshido.net/forums/sho…=17861&page=19

post 183.

I am hoping you would kindly remove the post. There was an issue between Scott Sonnon and myself in 2002 around money not returned and unfortunately it spilled onto usenet. A variety of sock puppets were created by his cadre of followers to discredit me and attack my person. This one here is still ranking first page on google when someone searches my name and Kinesiologist. It’s defamatory in nature and was only ever done to taint my name. I am kindly asking, since it’s not relevant in any way and is damaging to my reputation, as well as all false, if someone from your team can please remove it, and please remove any reference of my name on your site, as I’ve never been a contributing member and again, it is ranking page 1 on google for John Perone Kinesiologist please.

If you would like to confirm my identity, I work Tuesdays and Thursdays here:

https://www.portcoquitlamphysio.com/our-team
(604) 945-6644

or personal 778-706-1367 and I will confirm that I am indeed the person in question in the postings made by, likely, sock puppets referencing my name negatively.

Thank you kindly,
John Perone

He kept asking for the “owner of the site” and I said that it would be best to put the request in the Support Forum so the appropriate person could get back to him. He’s starting to piss me off, acting like he knows about SEO to a digital marketing expert.

I don’t know what the protocol is here, but I was pretty firm with him telling him I couldn’t help.

[submessenger]

Yeah, I’ve swapped a few messages with him, basically telling him how to deal with it: request the original poster redact, or refute the assertion in the thread. Raised to Phrost and the rest of the advisory board, as well, just so everyone’s aware.

I won’t get all lawyery - others that do that for a living can - but basically our position is that posters are responsible for their content. We only take down stuff that is imminently threatening (e.g. PII), blatant abuse of service (spam), causes immediate harm to the site or its continued operation, or as required by force of law.

For posterity:

@JPRMT

Hello Sir/Ma’am

I am the John Perone referred to in this link

https://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17861&page=19

post 183.

I am hoping you would kindly remove the post. There was an issue between Scott Sonnon and myself in 2002 around money not returned and unfortunately it spilled onto usenet. A variety of sock puppets were created by his cadre of followers to discredit me and attack my person. This one here is still ranking first page on google when someone searches my name and Kinesiologist. It’s defamatory in nature and was only ever done to taint my name. I am kindly asking, since it’s not relevant in any way and so old that someone from your team remove it, and please remove any reference of my name on your sites, please.

Thank you kindly,
John Perone

@submessenger

Greetings.

I appreciate your concern. Our policy is that postings are the responsibility of the individual poster. You are welcome to contact that individual to request removal. You are also welcome to refute any claims you feel in error by posting in the thread. Fair warning, bringing up threads that have been dead for 14 years does not sit well with the community, at large.

I have no validation of your identity, which is ironic considering your story about sock puppet accounts. So, even if I was to break with policy and make the redactions you claim, I would need some solid evidence that you are John Perone, and that the John Perone in question is you. You appear to be operating out of London, England, which - to be fair - is not remotely geographically close to where Scott Sonnon operates, nor to any of the John Perones that I’ve looked at on the web.

Furthermore, the name “John Perone,” is not unique to a single individual. Some rudimentary searching shows that there are many John Perones around the world. For this reason, I would not undertake a complete scrub of the name “John Perone,” from our site.

And, finally, we are not responsible for the data housed by Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, DuckDuckGo, or any other search engines or public archives (which also include the US Government). In order to scrub this post from the web, you would need to chase all of those, as well.

Personally speaking, I think your best bet is to use the thread to refute the claim.

Good luck, and welcome to Bullshido.

@JPRMT

Please, its not going to affect your site, it’s rankings, or whatever. I use a VPN whenever I’m online. I don’t know what the IP is as it’s randomized. However, you can reach me on my cell 778-706-1367 if you want confirmation. John Perone Kinesiologist or John Perone Vancouver brings up the same results.

Here is a clinic I work out of

https://www.portcoquitlamphysio.com/our-team

Feel free to call me there tomorrow if you like. I’ll be there from 7am till 1pm and will confirm that I am indeed the person in question.

This thread ranks #1 on google when someone searches my name. Clients have brought it up. It hurts my reputation. No one who would want to harm me would ask you to delete it, rather they’d likely be delighted that something negative, and false (libelous) has been said about me, so I don’t quite understand your reluctance.

That user doesn’t seem to be active.

Would you kindly just delete that posting so that it does not rank on google anymore? It’s a simple request, and one that is within your reach. Please.

Thanks,
John

@submessenger

Again, I appreciate your concern. I have escalated your request. My current guidance is that the post stands, and you are welcome to challenge and disprove the claim made in the post on the thread in question.

@JPRMT

Thanks for escalating the request. I do not desire to continue the post in any way whatsoever. As far as I’m concerned it is 15 years in the past. The effects of it on my current clientele who search me online is my only concern. We can agree that the posts serve no other purpose but defamatory purposes and I am the one in question. Therefore, it would be silly for anyone but me to be concerned about the content. The thread also has no value but to bring dissension. No one can learn anything positive from it.

I only request that my name is removed. Really, no one can be harmed by it. I’m happy to take a call from any of the moderators, or owners of this site tomorrow to confirm who I am to you/them.

I also wanted to quickly address your statement below:

“we are not responsible for the data housed by Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, DuckDuckGo, or any other search engines or public archives (which also include the US Government). In order to scrub this post from the web, you would need to chase all of those, as well.”

You are right that I would have to chase other sources. Believe me, I have been doing so and for the most part everyone who has had private websites that houses this dispute have had no issues removing it. The search engines don’t house the information, they only rank and link to it. So when it is removed, and their bots scour the sites again, the rankings are also updated and your site won’t rank 1st page for John Perone Kinesiologist and John Perone Vancouver.

Please please be kind and grant me this one request. I have no further beef with Sonnon. My money was returned at some point by a third party that was involved in bringing us together. I was going to host one of his events and put a down payment/deposit per his request. He then decided that he wasn’t interested and no longer responded to my requests. I made a pubic request on rec.martial.arts and the rest is history. Multiple sock puppet accounts which I imagine were mostly him or his followers started to create stories about our interactions. Slowly, at that time, it was possible to get google to remove those. These remaining ones (your site included) have been ones I’ve been slowly finding over the years.

I just want them removed.

I don’t want to put more focus on it.

Put yourself in my shoes and I’m sure you’d feel similarly.

Thanks,
John

Obviously, we’re at an impasse. We are trying to stick to a legal definition of how we operate. Of course, I’m always reticent to tell somebody to “sue us,” so I avoided that language as much as possible.

[submessenger]

Damn, as if on cue:

@JPRMT

I don’t think you appreciate that my name has been slandered and defamed on your site for no good reason. I’d ask for you to put yourself in my shoes. Pretend you did none of what was attributed to you. Think about what it would be like if clients who are googling you are finding this and bringing it to your attention, and then tell yourself “I appreciate your concern”

Furthermore, how is it that you don’t understand that reviving a dead thread that serves to only slander/defame me would be actually completely counter productive. How am I supposed to disprove anything other than deny it, and thus bring more attention to it and improve it’s ranking in google as a result.

What sort of advice is that?

No one has posted in that thread for years yet taking 2 or 3 postings referencing my name erroneously is going to hurt you?

Nice.

I am currently seeking legal advice and will be pressing domainsbyproxy for the owners information so I can follow through with legal action.

You could have helped to stop all of that with a few clicks of a button that would have literally taken no time, nor hurt anyone on this site.

Thanks.