He has.
He made an inappropriate sexual comment about a specific child on social media.
That is enough, in some jurisdictions.
And that comment should be criticized and condemned, as it involved a child.
It’s odd, that you are taking exception to criticizing and condemning sexual comments towards small children online, or in general.
Is your objection because you are a Gordon Ryan fan, or because you do think sexual comments by adults towards children should be tolerated, or…?
Ironically, up until this comment, I defended Gordon Ryan’s rights to jaw at his opponents, and in general, to raise gate revenues.
However, this comment of his, was a no-no.
If that’s true shame on you and for ruining someone’s career for shit they said in a time of anger, who knows you might be the target of this one day.
I wouldn’t discuss this in a bar
Many have, the thread about dating in a dojo for example
Many here, like you calling me uneducated etc
Someone said I’m an example of a toxic BJJ community, didn’t you read it?
Ok well he’s not under arrest so get over it. And no he didn’t hurt a child, he made a stupid comment and so did his opponent
What I take exception too is things being blown out of proportion, it reminds me of the idiots who call everyone a racist because they insulted Obama, I’ve heard dumb asses say it’s racist to question Obama’s birth certificate cause he’s black, I once someone else say Jews were racists for not going to a non Jewish marriage. You can’t just label someone a pedo because he said something once.
Idk who Gordon is, are you raging at Gordon cause you have nothing better to do and need to attack others?
So you’re the gate keeper of speech ok, so when you ever say anything stupid can we shun you?
An older coach may give advice to a younger athlete, and may remind the community, some lines exist for a reason.
Did I call you uneducated?
That doesn’t sound like me, unless I was referring to something or some area that was very specific, where you might be uneducated.
Or unless you stated you were uneducated, and I was merely repeating back what you had said.
Or, unless, I had drank a few martini’s, and was having a good time.
Who said that?
I said that you were being hypersensitive, and silly.
Did someone call you toxic?
Sexual comments towards a specific child online, or in public, or in private to that child, are a harm to that child.
Who labeled him a pedophile?
Stating that he made a pedophile comment, that should be criticized, and condemned, is not the same as labeling him a pedophile.
As a leader, and elder, in the BJJ community, it would be immoral of me not to condemn, and criticize that comment.
Certainly.
And, I say plenty of stupid things.
And, sometimes, people block me for saying truthful things, that are not at all stupid.
Yet he’s not in jail? Lol
But you just said be hurt a child…wouldn’t that make him a pedo, so you agree with me he didn’t hurt a child
Sure we can criticize and condemn his comments but idk him irl or what he’s done, I can’t say let’s ruin his career over one comment
I’ve never heard of you but ok lol
Block you? Shouldn’t we be shunning you and asking others to affect your income?
You’re not giving advice, come on
I’m pretty sure you or someone did, that’s raging lol
You said it was representative of the BJJ community, you said you’re an elder in that community, you’re bad mouthing your own community?
There are civil courts.
There are criminal courts.
There are violations of terms of service.
Google Execs in Italy got hauled into court because a video was posted on Youtube of a disabled child being bullied.
Cyberbullying of children by adults, among other crimes by adults to children online, is a crime, in many States, and domiciles, and is also considered a civil harm, in many domiciles.
One can harm a child, without being a pedophile, and one can harm a child and be a pedophile.
If he had a career consequence, it might, and probably would be the best thing for him, in the long term.
I am sure there are lot of people, in various domains, that you have never heard of.
There are a few hundred people alive who outrank me, in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu / BJJ, I am sure that you have not heard of all of them, either.
And neither have I, at least not all of them.
Certainly, I am.
Who raged?
And how are you defining “raging”?
You are not very good at quoting people accurately, or in context.
Being self-critical of oneself, one’s team, one’s community, and publicly acknowledging missteps, mistakes, moral failings, is not “bad mouthing”, but rather what any moral and mature party does, especially if they are in leadership roles, but even rank and file.
Otherwise, if one denies wrongdoings or fails to take responsibility for them when they occur, by one’s person or one’s group or organization, that is a sign of brainwashing, cults, immoral organizations, and failures or absences of leadership.
Loyalty is often not a virtue.
The concept of “loyalty” is what con artists and corrupt people in seats they should not be in, invoke, to convince the gullible to turn off their brains, and turn a blind eye to bad behaviors.
Adults should not make sexual comments towards children, not even when they are mad at other adults.
Adults should not make threats of violence towards children, not even when they are mad at other adults.
Feuds, and beefs, between adults, should be kept with the adults.
Then leave it to the courts
I don’t think he harmed a child, if he did then the parent should either sue or get the authorities involved, I agree with you on that.
Maybe, maybe not, not for me to judge or anyone sept him.
Ok well I’m a nobody in BJJ anyway
Ok
Well someone did, I don’t recall, my apologies
Again, my apologies
Well I can agree with you in that for sure, I personally am guilty of criticizing others but as I said I don’t think Gordon is into kids or meant it.