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[QUOTE=slamdunc;2704081]You might check with the Gracie Academy, Rener Gracie helped to develop Gracie Bullyproof, a youth confidence and character development program. The BJJ is a big part of it, but the communicative other conflict resolution techniques really make it a decent model.

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I find a viscious blow to the neck or testicles while they are mid-sentence tends to open them up for a descisive follow through fairly well.

You probably don’t want children running around with that mind set though…

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[QUOTE=Mr. Machette;2704088]I find a viscious blow to the neck or testicles while they are mid-sentence tends to open them up for a descisive follow through fairly well.

You probably don’t want children running around with that mind set though…[/QUOTE]I think you’ve found a winner, at least for us grown-ups LOL.

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[QUOTE=Mr. Machette;2704088]I find a viscious blow to the neck or testicles while they are mid-sentence tends to open them up for a descisive follow through fairly well.

You probably don’t want children running around with that mind set though…[/QUOTE]

Why not?

Always worked for me…

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[QUOTE=Syphilis;2704070]Fellow Bullies,

I have been asked to help with a bullying situation, to teach a girl and potentially a few other kids some basic ‘self defense’ vs bullies.

I have taught Brazillian Jiujitsu and Kickboxing and MMA before, but obviously we don’t want to beat the crap out of a bully -the goal is to make the girl, and other kids, feel safe and confident enough to stand up to other kids, and know what to do when they do get into a fight.

I have some ideas on what should be in such a program, and I have discussed it with my instructor, but I would also like to hear from other teachers/trainers who teach a similar program or classes as to what they use?

I was thinking of teaching the girl similar to the Gracie Jiu Jitsu style of self defense; close to clinch on a punch etc. But in this thread I would love to see a discussion from other instructors on what they use and what they think is effective and why.[/QUOTE]

I think you should not teach them anything.

I think you should follow the children in a van.

When the children are bullied, you should leap out of the van and chop the bullies into little bits. You should use something like this:

Further… I believe that to send the right message to the children you are protecting, and to children everywhere, you should be wearing spandex. Bright Spandex.

And Cape…

And thigh high boots…

And groin protection that both protects and draws attention to your manhood. And call yourself captain something something.

All of this will be good the the childrens mental health. And mine. Because I’m feeling down, and I cant wait to read about this shit on the internet

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Teach her neck cranks and only neck cranks. Nothing ends a bullying career like a wheelchair.

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Excised from: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=117109

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[QUOTE=jnp;2704351]Excised from: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=117109[/QUOTE]
Oh shit. I see what happened there.

Well, we’re in the right place now!

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[QUOTE=jnp;2704351]Excised from: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=117109[/QUOTE]I guess I should have looked at the forum before I brought jokes and shit. That was my first warning and loss of a point; troubling.

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[QUOTE=slamdunc;2704400]I guess I should have looked at the forum before I brought jokes and shit. That was my first warning and loss of a point; troubling.[/QUOTE]
Nah, if you get your first infraction after being here for months or years it just means you’re a regular member.

If you get more than one or two your first month, however, you’re probably a troll.

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I think that the parents of hateful/aggressive/dickish kids need to be spoken to in a very straightforward manner in order to impress upon them that they themselves need to straighten out their little monsters post haste.

It would be nice to be able to put a small camera in the classroom and try and get some of the cruel behavior on tape; then you could go over the video with them so that they could watch their little Willem or their little Kaatje in action being horrible.

I think the people who raise mean-spirited children need themselves to be “bullied” a bit- no, not physically, but socially- like, for instance, relentlessly harassing the fuck out of them until their little shit stops picking on a weaker kid.

As for the weaker kid- I say have them do Judo. Get them into that ASAP. Some kind of training in a club-like atmosphere in which the people in the dojo become their friends/protectors/partners. Judo is great for that in that people become your family so to speak- at least that’s been my experience with the sport.

I don’t think you can “coach a kid up” in 8 weeks to learn to handle herself- I think it takes a year of training to even begin to have some confidence in a fight/some confidence walking down the hall in school. Show me a youngster that’s done a year of consistent Judo and I’ll show you a kid with some fortitude.

Other than that, get the child into a club or activity outside of school that is welcoming to them- like a music or drama or dance club or whatever. The child needs to feel accepted somewhere by some kids, even if it’s not at school.

(sigh)

This stuff is so sad- kids a so fucking cruel. I’m about to have one myself and I don’t think I’m going to handle it too well if my kid gets picked on (and he won’t be a bully himself- believe me- “bullying” is not in the DNA of my wife or myself).

If some kid or kids are truly cruel to him it will be difficult not to pay it forward to the parents of the offenders. Children can’t always be protected by their parents- I understand that- but sometimes they simply can’t face a group of cruel youngsters and that’s when the adults have to step in and stop the torture.

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[QUOTE=twan55;2705596]
I think the people who raise mean-spirited children need themselves to be “bullied” a bit- no, not physically, but socially- like, for instance, relentlessly harassing the fuck out of them until their little shit stops picking on a weaker kid.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that sounds like absolutely solid advice. I mean, who’s ever heard of socially unsuccessful parents raising anything but the sweetest little kids?

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Maybe, you should teach the kid how to respond with psychological torture.

Personally, that was exactly what I did. I researched the shit out of the guys who picked on me and tried to see what made their life shitty. I learned alot and gained a sort of respect and even pity for their harsh lives BUT that never stopped me from telling EVERYBODY their private fears and secrets. I made sure to make their lives a living hell. I made sure everybody knew which one of them was getting beat up by their parents, which one was a disappointment to their family, which one was a pickpocket etc.

I never had throw a single punch and yet the mofos suffered more than me. LOL.

But don’t forget to teach them how to fight too. Never know, the guys bullying these particular set of kid might react violently when they’re confronted by a kid who lets loose facts they thought would never get out.

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Or maybe you should teach them how to shoot guns.

That’s exactly what I did. Learned how to operate a gun and one day went to school and taught them what it meant to bully me.

Never had to throw a punch, LOL.

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Sorry. For some reason I had forgotten that this was in a technique forum. Excuse my sarcastic post that doesn’t add anything.

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[QUOTE=Azatdawn;2705606]Yeah, that sounds like absolutely solid advice. I mean, who’s ever heard of socially unsuccessful parents raising anything but the sweetest little kids?[/QUOTE]

What I meant was that if a kid (or group of kids) is TORTURING some child that, if- other attempts to rectify the situation fail- pressure ought be put on the parents of the little sadists causing the trouble. And I’m only referring to extreme situations of relentless bullying.

My point is that sometimes you have to go over the kids’ heads.

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[QUOTE=Azatdawn;2705695]Or maybe you should teach them how to shoot guns.

That’s exactly what I did. Learned how to operate a gun and one day went to school and taught them what it meant to bully me.

Never had to throw a punch, LOL.[/QUOTE]

Instead of taking potshots at people trying to give advice regarding a VERY difficult situation (i.e., kids and bullying) why don’t you suggest something concrete?

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[QUOTE=twan55;2705731]What I meant was that if a kid (or group of kids) is TORTURING some child that, if- other attempts to rectify the situation fail- pressure ought be put on the parents of the little sadists causing the trouble. And I’m only referring to extreme situations of relentless bullying.

My point is that sometimes you have to go over the kids’ heads.[/QUOTE]
“Putting pressure on the parents” is “relentlessly harassing the fuck out of them”.

Gotcha.

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I clarified what I meant in a subsequent post. I was referring to a situation in which the bullying doesn’t stop, and saying that the parents of the bully/bullies should be confronted as well. If they too are at a loss as to how to control their kids- and if they, too wish that the torment wasn’t taking place as well- then, of course, I understand, and no, they shouldn’t be harassed.

If, otoh, they reflexively come to the defense of their little monsters (which happens all too frequently, unfortunately) then they need to be dealt with as well.

My point is that often times you can’t ameliorate this kind of situation by just going to the source (i.e., the kids themselves); usually, you need to get the pertinent adults involved- which means dealing with the parents of the children who are relentlessly torturing a classmate of theirs.

Or do you think that the parents of kids who are making life a living hell for a fellow student should be left out of the solution? Should nothing be tried as far as they go? Are they off limits?

If it seemed as if I was saying to just immediately start in on the parents of kids that are cruel, then understand that this was not my intent. But the parents of kids that are actively doing evil to a vulnerable child- one who is unequipped to defend him or herself- need to be brought into the equation and, if they’re not helping the situation and/or making it worse, there needs to be consequences.

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[QUOTE=twan55;2705731]What I meant was that if a kid (or group of kids) is TORTURING some child that, if- other attempts to rectify the situation fail- pressure ought be put on the parents of the little sadists causing the trouble. And I’m only referring to extreme situations of relentless bullying.

My point is that sometimes you have to go over the kids’ heads.[/QUOTE]

His point is that those parents are completely incapable to do what you are proposing to begin with. Have you ever dealt with fucked up parents? Often times parents of these kids are disfunctional because of alchohol, drugs, or just plain sober wife beaters, etc. Hey can’y all of the sudden go 'hey son, stop bullying the kids or you get put on time out." when the parents themselves continue to be shining examples to their children. I guess if you haven’t dealt with them for whatever reason, you’ll lose a bit of hope in humanity.

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[QUOTE=twan55;2705747]
Or do you think that the parents of kids who are making life a living hell for a fellow student should be left out of the solution? Should nothing be tried as far as they go? Are they off limits?
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Yes, when I suggested that harassing possibly abusive parents was maybe not the best idea, this is exactly what I meant.

[QUOTE=twan55;2705733]Instead of taking potshots at people trying to give advice regarding a VERY difficult situation (i.e., kids and bullying) why don’t you suggest something concrete?[/QUOTE]
See, I feel that I can express criticism towards the idea of educating bullied kids in the art of psychological warfare, don’t you? I would criticize if someone wrote “teach them MA so they can just beat up whoever bullies them”. So far, no one really suggested that. Mostly, it was said that learning an MA will do one thing: building a certain self-awareness and confidence that might help stopping the bullied kid from being a target/ victim, whatever, with the added bonus of being able to defend yourself (maybe as a last resort). I can agree with that because I’ve experienced it myself, although it wasn’t MA related when I was a kid.