‘KK, thank you for your cordial reply. You are of course t3h K0rr3CT!’
Edge,
thank you, but I have nothing to do with it.
It’s just physics.
Peace.
Originally posted by kuntaokid
[B]‘I would say reaction time is a component of overall speed.’
reaction time is the ODA cycle.
1)perception/cognition
2)identification
3)assessment
4)extrapolation of percieved activity
5)extrapolation of necessary activity in relation to extrapolation of perception
6)intiation of extrapolated activity
7)execution
the first five ‘steps’ are mental. the compression of the decision cycle is what allows true ‘speed’ [/B]
So… umm … was I correct or incorrect?
Originally posted by kuntaokid
[B]‘KK, thank you for your cordial reply. You are of course t3h K0rr3CT!’
Edge,
thank you, but I have nothing to do with it.
It’s just physics.
Peace. [/B]
Hey, just giving credit where credit’s due.
‘For the attacker, what are the attributes necessary for a successful first strike?’
blankslate,
it is all the same.
the attacker must establish a striking vantage, and then initiate and complete his strike, before the defender ‘realizes’ what is happening and makes the necessary adjustment.
Being as this is a pretty instinctive consideration, most people with some experience realize what needs to be done…thus all the jockeying for position that is seen in many fighting contexts/arts.
the capoeira jinga…
baguazhang circle walking…
filipino/silat langkah…
western boxers ‘square circling’
‘juking’ in football
all these methods are based on confusing the opponent’s ODA cycle.
herein lies the basis of the distinction and rationale for direct v.s. indirect attack.
direct attack counters indirect attack.
indirect attack counters direct attack.
basically.
another way to say this is ‘deception v.s. directness’.
polar opposites, yet merely opposite faces of the same coin.
why be direct?
why deceive?
‘So… umm … was I correct or incorrect?’
Yes, you are korrect.
being that any activity is a process, with a beginning, middle, and end, it can be broken down into relatively concrete ‘stages’.
no one makes quantuum leaps past these stages, but many are not conciously aware of them. with an incomplete understanding, performance can only suffer.
I find it highly amusing how most people are very scientific or full of opinions about so many subjects, like car repair, or computer networking, and in respect to activities like that, no one would disagree that you have to know the process, or what is going on.
but for ma, their dont carry this attitude. they just do what they feel like doing.
if direct experience was all it took to learn, then there would be no need for teachers, manuals, videos, or discussions.
many like to scoff at ‘qi’. it IS energy dynamics.
The Cycle of Process.
blankslate,
- take position, initiate and execute first
OR
2)lead him into a bad position, then see step(1)
Originally posted by Edge
[B]Or if one foot is stepping, the leg you are standing on could be slightly bent.
y-axis, as in your vertical centerline. [/B]
I was referring to the fact that usually, the leg you’re standing on is pressing off. For that moment, balance is sacrificed, and must be, because to press off, you are pushing your center ahead of your base(the y-axis leg). Some styles minimize this by launching the lead leg and letting that momentum “pull” the rest of you forward, but there’s usually a little bit of a push off from the rear leg, and that’s when you’re unbalanced.
Anytime you change direction balance is compromized, as is your ability to change direction while on one foot; this leaves you vulnerable.
That is why if you are changing direction or moving if should be to attack first or gain an advantageous position.
KK has already said this in several different ways tho…
Originally posted by KC Elbows
[B]I was referring to the fact that usually, the leg you’re standing on is pressing off. For that moment, balance is sacrificed, and must be, because to press off, you are pushing your center ahead of your base(the y-axis leg).
I should’ve said the y-axis of your torso, thats what I meant.
Originally posted by KC Elbows
Some styles minimize this by launching the lead leg and letting that momentum “pull” the rest of you forward…
Yeah, I was taught to move like this to minimize the risk. Thanks KC.
Originally posted by mike reese
Anytime you change direction balance is compromized, as is your ability to change direction while on one foot; this leaves you vulnerable.
That is why if you are changing direction or moving if should be to attack first or gain an advantageous position.
KK has already said this in several different ways tho…
That is why I practice astral projection, you can’t lose your balance if you are floating in the air, the TRUE mark of a Taiji master.
Dude, you must share your wisdom.
I, in turn will impart secrets from my vast experience in expanding, manipulating, tossing and twisting the balls that are known as chi.
Mike, here, let me whisper the secret of the “weightless stance”
- doobies*
Lets keep that between us, ok?
Or as Rick James says: “a little bit of the sticky nasty”
Ya know, I haven’t been “weightless” in years.
Tai=Supreme
Chi= Ultimate
Chaun=Spliff
- doobies*
Alright, I am confused… is that like do be a doobies and don’t be a dontbies?
PROCESS OF ELIMINATION
Originally posted by Justme
[B]* doobies*
Alright, I am confused… is that like do be a doobies and don’t be a dontbies? [/B]
No, Justme, it’s NOT this:
Come now let’s join hands and sing the the doobie song
blankslate,
pyschologist?
okay then,
perception/cognition- raw data, pure sensory input, or the perception of a change in field dynamics.
identification/re-cognition- this is where the majority of problems start. if identification is made is in a timely fashion, than the process can continue. Under stress, mis-identification or re-cognition will tend to occur, relevant to the amount of experience you have with the subject/event. There is a ‘frankenstein’ effect in operation. Old associations are drawn upon to indentify the current activity. However this is using the past to predict the future. Seems natural and is a necessary process, but there is a term in psychology, cognitive dissonance, I think, that explains the ‘frankenstien’ effect. New events are identified by cross referencing them with several past events. Many incorrect assumptions are arrived at and the resultant extrapolations are therefore flawed. Is is very difficult to perform effectively, essentially because your info is wrong.
In a fighting context, with the compressed ODA cycle(s), this can be inconvenient to say the least.
coooooollll, man.
this thread needs to just die in peace