Evidence based mass shooter prevention

Maybe you guys should introduce yourselves, to each other.

You didn’t make an argument.

I even asked you too but you deflected. You just posted some stats and made jokes about the vice president of profiling.

You also suggested that academics and/or politicians were lying scared about giving the information you were presenting to the public.

I don’t have any gold, other than that…

It’s a multivariate issue, to be sure.

At some ranges…

Not all…

I could relate stories, but won’t, as it would further muddy the water.

Isn’t that what the 13/52 stats are used for ?

To imply black people are disproportionately violent

That would be, obviously, a gross mis-interpretation/dis/misinformation use of that data.

But is has been used by some for that.

As a population, it certainly does imply that. Now when you start to get into ecological fallacy territory is if you go up to a truly random black man and say “you’re going to commit murder based on these stats”. That wouldn’t exactly make sense if you were talking to Barack Obama or Colion Noire or any other professional or upper class black person, for example.

It’s just like any other aggregate statistic, you can’t make statistical inferences about an individual from it, but you can make inferences about an aggregate. And that inference leads to what has been termed “white flight”.

The key thing is whether their skin tone (so called “race”) is what causes the potential violence.

And it’s not, obviously.

By your two own examples.

Poverty doesn’t completely explain it either. And even if it did, the policies directed at solving “it” aren’t acting as if poverty is actually the cause either.

And while there is crime in the trailer park, so to speak, there aren’t mass lootings of the Winn Dixie or Piggly Wiggly by trailer park Americans like what’s happening in California to Walgreens, CVS, and now some high end department and boutique stores.

There can and has been, during some natural disasters, where supply chain was seriously disrupted.

Also, @submessenger , give a hoot, and don’t you loot…!

I prefer the term “running down on the opps.”

Gonzo tagged me in, so here goes.

I live in a trailer park. It’s probably one of the safest places on earth; being deep in the heart of Texas doesn’t hurt. All of your neighbors are 15 feet away, so everyone is in each others shit - sometimes unfortunately literally.

You are probably referring to double-wide rentals, which is an entirely different sort of living, and what the rest of the world considers to be a trailer park. Seriously there are quarter million dollar pieces of absolutely lovely machinery that people live in here. You can get in to a double wide for maybe $40k slightly used, maybe $60k new on the low end, if you have a place to put it. But you are not mobile. Let’s stop calling them “trailers.” If you need somebody else to pick up your home and move it, it’s not a trailer, it’s a sub-mobile home.

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Excellent informative post.

I suppose Sacramento, LA, and San Francisco are going through a sort of natural disaster right now.

It was a euphemism I made up and a play on “Basketball Americans”, another euphemism used regularly online.

So you think euphamisms aren’t damaging to the people they reference? Or, are you just playing coy? Asking for a friend.

I would fall into the demographic category of what “Trailer Park American” would describe if it was being used seriously. Are you going to get angry about my use of the word redneck, which also would be used to describe me, too? lmao

OH, hell no. I’m a proud redneck. You may label me that with impunity.