Combat Sambo - Interested in Travelling Overseas to learn

Basic and Misc. Fighting Technique Discussion
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Hi guys,

I am interested in learning Combat Sambo. I have limited experience in Japanese Jujutsu and unfortunately I have a lot more experience in Karate (which I consider to be a waste of my time, and I no longer do). I prefer Jujutsu over Karate by far.

I am curious, if I travel overseas to learn Combat Sambo, I want to ensure that I make the most of my trip - so I would like to learn the basics now.

Would it be worthwhile learning some Muay Thai or Kickboxing? Which one is most likely to result in my learning the most that has immediate cross over to Combat Sambo? My understanding is that Muay Thai and Kickboxing uses different footwork - but I base that off my own observation. I am assuming that the basic kickboxing drills will be identical to basic Combat Sambo drills.

Also, are there any good websites out there that have a Sambo (any type of Sambo) focus?

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[QUOTE=BJJorSambo?;3039200]Hi guys,

I am interested in learning Combat Sambo. I have limited experience in Japanese Jujutsu and unfortunately I have a lot more experience in Karate (which I consider to be a waste of my time, and I no longer do). I prefer Jujutsu over Karate by far.

I am curious, if I travel overseas to learn Combat Sambo, I want to ensure that I make the most of my trip - so I would like to learn the basics now.

Would it be worthwhile learning some Muay Thai or Kickboxing? Which one is most likely to result in my learning the most that has immediate cross over to Combat Sambo? My understanding is that Muay Thai and Kickboxing uses different footwork - but I base that off my own observation. I am assuming that the basic kickboxing drills will be identical to basic Combat Sambo drills.

Also, are there any good websites out there that have a Sambo (any type of Sambo) focus?[/QUOTE]

If you want to learn Sambo, you best learn Sambo.

At the very best advice I can if you are limited in supply is look for seminars in your area or find a school that does seminars like here:
https://patriotinstitute.org/academy-patriot-institute/combat-sambo-camp/

then if you want extra look at the panther productions DVDs on the series, theres an ebay profile who sells them often: https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/martialartsmaria

otherwise buy them here
https://www.budovideos.com/products/combat-sambo-11-dvd-set-with-tony-lopez

but dont think DVD’s substitute for a teacher. I mean if you had an extensive background in Judo and a striking art you might pick things up easier but get a coach.

Where are you looking to train abroad? That would be a start.

Also, welcome to bullshido, are you going to introduce yourself?

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[QUOTE=BJJorSambo?;3039200]Hi guys,

I am interested in learning Combat Sambo. I have limited experience in Japanese Jujutsu and unfortunately I have a lot more experience in Karate (which I consider to be a waste of my time, and I no longer do). I prefer Jujutsu over Karate by far.

I am curious, if I travel overseas to learn Combat Sambo, I want to ensure that I make the most of my trip - so I would like to learn the basics now.

Would it be worthwhile learning some Muay Thai or Kickboxing? Which one is most likely to result in my learning the most that has immediate cross over to Combat Sambo? My understanding is that Muay Thai and Kickboxing uses different footwork - but I base that off my own observation. I am assuming that the basic kickboxing drills will be identical to basic Combat Sambo drills.

Also, are there any good websites out there that have a Sambo (any type of Sambo) focus?[/QUOTE]

If I was willing to travel to a cold and barren land filled with nuclear waste and a culture I just can’t understand to learn Sambo from a master of sport and BJJ black belt where would I go?

Koulikov Grappling Academy - Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Sambo

355 Warwick Turnpike, Hewitt, NJ 07421
(845) 421-8809 https://g.page/sambofusion?share

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[QUOTE=BJJorSambo?;3039200]Hi guys,

I am interested in learning Combat Sambo. I have limited experience in Japanese Jujutsu and unfortunately I have a lot more experience in Karate (which I consider to be a waste of my time, and I no longer do). I prefer Jujutsu over Karate by far.

I am curious, if I travel overseas to learn Combat Sambo, I want to ensure that I make the most of my trip - so I would like to learn the basics now.

Would it be worthwhile learning some Muay Thai or Kickboxing? Which one is most likely to result in my learning the most that has immediate cross over to Combat Sambo? My understanding is that Muay Thai and Kickboxing uses different footwork - but I base that off my own observation. I am assuming that the basic kickboxing drills will be identical to basic Combat Sambo drills.

Also, are there any good websites out there that have a Sambo (any type of Sambo) focus?[/QUOTE]

Gjj, MMA and Combat Sambo are all kissing cousins.

Gjj and combat Sambo use a gi but focus on free fighting.

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[QUOTE=Raycetpfl;3039462]If I was willing to travel to a cold and barren land filled with nuclear waste and a culture I just can’t understand to learn Sambo from a master of sport and BJJ black belt where would I go?

Koulikov Grappling Academy - Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Sambo

355 Warwick Turnpike, Hewitt, NJ 07421
(845) 421-8809 https://g.page/sambofusion?share[/QUOTE]
Vlad is a great instructor and a great guy.

I highly recommend.

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[QUOTE=BJJorSambo?;3039200]Hi guys,

I am interested in learning Combat Sambo. I have limited experience in Japanese Jujutsu and unfortunately I have a lot more experience in Karate (which I consider to be a waste of my time, and I no longer do). I prefer Jujutsu over Karate by far.

I am curious, if I travel overseas to learn Combat Sambo, I want to ensure that I make the most of my trip - so I would like to learn the basics now.

Would it be worthwhile learning some Muay Thai or Kickboxing? Which one is most likely to result in my learning the most that has immediate cross over to Combat Sambo? My understanding is that Muay Thai and Kickboxing uses different footwork - but I base that off my own observation. I am assuming that the basic kickboxing drills will be identical to basic Combat Sambo drills.

Also, are there any good websites out there that have a Sambo (any type of Sambo) focus?[/QUOTE]

Check out the Sambo Club Map

Define overseas? Where are you now? If you’re talking about going to Russia to learn Combat Sambo there are a few options, and I would recommend you check out Almaz Sports Club or FKE, both in St. Petersburg. Almaz is run by Kirill Sementsov, who runs the Battle Beetle channel on YouTube. He puts out a lot of Combat Sambo competitors and speaks English. FKE is Alexander Bakarov’s Club who was SamboSteve’s Combat Sambo Coach, and also speaks English. You’ll probably hear people telling you to check out places like Sambo-70 too, and while they’re excellent sports academies, they’re also boarding schools so it’s not like you can just show up and train. Normally trips to places like that are organized as tours.

[QUOTE=kimjonghng;3039448]If you want to learn Sambo, you best learn Sambo.

At the very best advice I can if you are limited in supply is look for seminars in your area or find a school that does seminars like here:
https://patriotinstitute.org/academy-patriot-institute/combat-sambo-camp/

[/QUOTE]

That course is offered through Andrei Popandoupaulo’s Sambo Tactical School (formerly Sambo 7), and is military Sambo focused. He’s one of my old coaches (still is), and has a regular class in Arlington, MA now. While he mainly focuses on Military Sambo these days, he’s still involved in Sport Sambo, and take a group to Mexico every year to compete in a Military Sambo Championship which is Combat Sambo, obstacle course, shooting, and knife throwing. He took one of my guys with him most for the one this past June. He’s a good guy to know in the Sambo world

[QUOTE=Raycetpfl;3039462]If I was willing to travel to a cold and barren land filled with nuclear waste and a culture I just can’t understand to learn Sambo from a master of sport and BJJ black belt where would I go?

Koulikov Grappling Academy - Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Sambo

355 Warwick Turnpike, Hewitt, NJ 07421
(845) 421-8809 https://g.page/sambofusion?share[/QUOTE]

Vlad’s a personal friend of mine and an amazing coach, plus his school is located in what’s effectively a scenic resort town, but if you’re wanting to do Combat Sambo specifically I would recommend some other places in in the US with a Combat Sambo focus: NY Combat Sambo (SamboSteve’s gym, and only 1.5 hours from Vlad), Fight Factory (Victor Tatarkin’s place, also in NYC), and MPR Endurance in Philadelphia (USA Sambo HQ).

There are a decent number of Sport Sambo gyms in the US, Combat Sambo far less so. Also there are precisely zero regular Combat Sambo competitions in the US and Canada, so if you’re looking to compete in Sambo it’s going to be Sport Sambo or nothing

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There aren’t a lot of great sambo gyms in the US, and the majority that claim sambo have little or zero actual sambo experience. Stateside, there are a few clubs in Sheepshead Bay in Brooklyn (Georgian Wrestling Club [David Prangishvili] or the Judo Sambo Center [Mikhail Jideliov]) and Mikhail Kozitskiy’s place in Southampton, PA, but that’s about it. And even those clubs don’t focus on “sambo”, in particular. Your best bet is to find a seriously competitive judo school in your area and dedicate yourself to judo, because combat sambo is scored almost the exact same as sport, so it’s mostly about how well you can throw your opponent.

If you were gonna go overseas, which I’ve done quite a bit, I’d save up a few Gs. Get a multiple-entry visa from the Russian consulate (about $700, affords you up to 6 months stay at a time), fly on a cheapass airline like Turkish or Aeroflot to Moscow, and stay in a dorm-style hostel in Moscow. Then start training. There are obviously some killer clubs there. I trained for free and pretty regularly at Sambo-70, and there are quite a few folks there that speak English, so if you show up (or call ahead of time, or email) and explain that you want to train, they will more often than not accommodate you (at least in my experience). Igor Kurinnoy’s place Boretz is awesome, as well, but they were much less receptive to me just showing up and training. I had to come with a group. And there’s a really good, smaller club called Jupiter. I fought two of their guys at the World Cup and they were almost inhuman.

In summary, if you want to go overseas and train for real, it’s going to be a little bit of an adventure, but it isn’t a particular difficult or hopeless one. You just have to show up, put yourself out there, and be patient.