So, I was caught in what I can only describe as a club riot tonight. Hip hop night was awesome. The only dude we bounced surrendered immediately and walked out. No problems. One girl mentioned a weapon and took her drunk ass home. No problems there either.
Now, I don’t know what happened in the club upstairs, which was basically pop night or some such, but I can only describe the aftermath as a small riot. The boss ordered me outside where we were told to disperse the club release crowds. Keep in mind that the police were only told to monitor reggae/hip hip night. Erm…
As we dispersed the crowd so, several patrons fled the club, fighting bouncers on the way out. I jumped in, chasing the men off the block, for reasons still unclear. Next thing I know, about 4 guys are fighting 20 bouncers and staff, one of them trying to handle the whole situation himself. Then a crew of about half a dozen forms up. At this point, the police show up with sirens blaring and lights flashing. So now, dudes are running into the street flipping off the police. The police keep rolling, except for the one cop who was moonlighting.
Now, I’ve got another crew forming up. Guy approaches and tells me I need to get the crew out of there before he kills them all, because his crew apparently goes into clubs and kills people. I hold my ground, send them away, send the one cop that stayed after that guy and then continue to run the rest of the aggressors off the block.
Does anyone with some experience have any feedback on that scenario? I hate fighting. Last time I got into a fight was '07. Tonight I got into about three fights, had no weapons and wasn’t allowed to hit anyone.
How do not die?
Also, apparently the combat zone still exists.
What you need is a collection of shitty tribal tats and the willingness to flip out at the drop of a hat. Or you could just watch Roadhouse a few dozen times and take it from there.
I was gonna go with the kanji actually and perhaps a Wu Tang tattoo.
[QUOTE=The Villain;2861482]I was gonna go with the kanji actually and perhaps a Wu Tang tattoo.[/QUOTE]
Just get a tat of your GF’s name and some barbed wire and you’re golden. We’ll let you bang bro. No worries!
Keep your pecker hard and your powder dry.
I wish I could give you better advice than that but riots are just plain chaos. The only way to deal is to ride it out come what may, beat feet to safety or avoid it completely.
Numero tres being the most effective maybe coralling drunks should just be a transitory carrer stage for you?
At the end of the day though I think what we can really take from this is the confirmation of something we have all suspected at one time or another.
Pop music is indeed the downfall of western civilisation.
Don’t get separated. There is a tendency to run off in all directions and deal with everything at once. Instead gang up and win the fights you are engaged in.
Then just move through them in a riot style line. Push who you have to push. Bash who you have to bash.
Look out for the loose arm. The loose guy and the down guard.
Numero tres being the most effective maybe coralling drunks should just be a transitory carrer stage for you?
It’s a good fit for the current stage. I’ve basically transitioned out of teaching with a world of legal and personal drama, and need to transition into something that lets me utilize my education and build my resume. Gonna survive this bullshit and then, after a few years, turn around and sell practical martial arts, based on continued real world experience. My other thought was military, but I’ve made my way through gang wars and gong saus without killing anyone, so I don’t see a reason to start. I don’t mind deflecting violence against myself or others though.
I have a certain hunger for action that takes me to places like this, but a moral compass that doesn’t allow me to kill people.
Pop music is indeed the downfall of western civilisation.
Dude, not gonna lie, I might be racist towards blacks. I knew there’d be trouble, and figured it would start with the hip hop crowd. So did the managers, and the police. Fucking pop club started the riot.
Look out for the loose arm. The loose guy and the down guard.
Good call.
Not really racist per say. Hip Hop is thematically more agressive and contentious than most generes of music so it’s an easy assumption that the crowds will be agressive too. The thing is a lot of Hip Hop fans have some concept of honor and respect at some level. They also love their subculture and are defensive of venues where they can enjoy it.
Top 40 Pop clubs on the other hand are a universal attractor for date rapists and failed date rapists turned street fighter out of sexual frustration and self loathing.
It’s a sad thing to see. The upside is you’ll stand out like a super model to the female patrons if you treat them like a human being.
Good luck to you, brother!
Don’t let the hessians bring you down.
Martial arts, taught or applies IS my real job. I went to trade school for it.
[QUOTE=Mr. Machette;2861512]Not really racist per say. Hip Hop is thematically more agressive and contentious than most generes of music so it’s an easy assumption that the crowds will be agressive too. The thing is a lot of Hip Hop fans have some concept of honor and respect at some level. They also love their subculture and are defensive of venues where they can enjoy it.
Top 40 Pop clubs on the other hand are a universal attractor for date rapists and failed date rapists turned street fighter out of sexual frustration and self loathing.
It’s a sad thing to see. The upside is you’ll stand out like a super model to the female patrons if you treat them like a human being.
Good luck to you, brother!
Don’t let the hessians bring you down.[/QUOTE]
My theory is that drunks appear to be and are, assholes, only tolerable to other drinks. So when you’re sober, you look a lot better than the jackasses.
Maybe stand around freeway offramps with a careboard sign that reads “Will Kimura for food.”?
Yeah, chasing drunks is more fun.
Ok my funky rolling assault drill. Operate essentially 2 or 3 on one. So you are partnered up either side of the guy. When he focuses his attention on one. The other guy pushes him from his blind side. Het turns to meet the new threat the first guy pushes from the blind.
3up guy in the middle in a triangle goes back and sweeps around to the best edge. (like a plait sort of)
Now you can still be three on one of you are out numbered if you are winning the individual battles and stay pretty tight and consistent.
To get a guy. Drag him behind your line and subdue him so his friends cant help. Yell stop resisting a lot.
And standing head arm triangles. Which I call seatbelt holds because it sounds nicer.
To non confrontationally push a guy back use your bicep across his chest. Sort of osotogari ish. You are not face to face but are still protected. To get past you he ha to give up his back.
Wrestling arm control works better for restraints than akido.
Tell the other bouncers where you are so they don’t think you are a bad guy and hit you. Telling patrons you are security sometimes has the same effect.
It is sometimes like jumping on a horse from behind they can get spooked.
Knife defence and escort holds are basically the same thing.
Knife stripping. And that akido wristlock throw is the best way to get a bottle out of someone’s hands. Job number one is get that bottle out of their hands.
Scarf hold is easier on your knees than side control. Hammerlocks will roll a guy over better than that straight arm bar wrist lock thing.
I thought this was going to be a sport karate thread 
A chux wipe tied up with a straw makes a decent ice pack.
Soda water is the best thing to drink after you have been punched in the mouth because it helps clean it out.
A t shirt is the quickest handy thing if someone is pissing blood.
The bar manager the is not your friend. The guy who picks up the glasses should be.
You will never see another bouncer hit a patron.
Watch the video of the incident before you write a report on it.
[QUOTE=The Villain;2861509]I have a certain hunger for action that takes me to places like this, but a moral compass that doesn’t allow me to kill people. [/QUOTE]
Is that you, Batman?
The bar manager the is not your friend. The guy who picks up the glasses should be.
Met both of them. Dude that picks up classes seems cool, but the other guys are alright too. Why?
You will never see another bouncer hit a patron.
See him what?
Is that you, Batman?
Zur-En-Arhhh