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The spinning back fist…oh Andy…if only you where still with us.
eh … it worked in that case after Cro Cop had G&P’d Silva, knocked the shit out of him, and shut his right eye so he couldn’t see the kick coming. sure, high kicks can work in MMA … a small percentage of the time.
High kicks will not work in any situation, any time, anywhere.
Oh, and mock not the MDK.
in kickboxing, and muay thai, and tae kwon do, places that do a lot of high kicks, they slip all the time, and then they get stood back up. In teh re4l d34dly str337 you dont get stood back up. well they dotn slip all the time, but i’ve seen tons of those MA’s slipping in there high kicks, especially tkd.
its just really risky trying to come off the bat in a confrontation outside of a ring with a high kick. usually fights dont go 10 rounds outside, there quick frantic tard fests. are there any videos of someone trained in MA fighting someone totally untrained?
You set them up. That’s the point. Just because they’re not something fundamental like a jab doesn’t make them useless.
I find that I slip less on concrete while wearing combat boots.
yeah, it sure is a lot easier to fall on your ass barefoot on canvas than in shoes on concrete
yea, when i was talking about slipping thats basically my assumption just from what i watch because i see a lot of slipping, im by no means a professional at high kicking. just like the whole being on one foot thing just seems like you’d be really vulnerable against someone who’s just wildy thrashing at you. i can see how shoes would definately help not slipping, just adding my 2 cents, because its all i have
well that’s the thing, you should never be going for a round kick to the noggin while someone is still swinging at you. It’s kind of something you do as a finisher or when they’re backing up.
If you’re going to kick someone in the head, it requires one of two things.
- They must be asking for it.
or
B) You must set them up for it.
I would think this would be obvious to all concerned, especially someone trained in Jun Fan.
There is a time and place for every manuever, but it comes down to a risk versus benefits analysis. A high kick is risky with potentially devastating consequences for the kicker (chance of tripping, not connecting, connecting ineffectively, having the kick blocker and countered), and the benefit is…kicking someone in the head?
If you’re really intent on kicking someone in the head, stomp on their knee first. Then, when they’re kneeling or rolling on the ground, you have all the benefits of a kick to the head without having to bring your foot up past your ear. And I say that as someone who started a martial arts career in TKD…
which basically means you got good at kicking people in the head with zero power. No wonder you don’t think highly of high kicks…
ps, I keep reading how people are always falling over after trying to kick someone in the head… I have probably 150 fights on my computer and nearly all of them a high kick was at least attempted and I don’t really recall any times when someone threw a head kick and fell over. Maybe that’s just because I don’t have any TKD point fighting on my computer or something.
The Shin Ooyung fight against that craptacular MT fighter had Shin falling down a lot…but then, he knew his opponent was crap and was throwing all kinds of acrobatic shit at him.
Off the top of my head, that’s the only one I can remember…
Oh Trust me, the benefit is there. One of the coaches in my gym can kick at people’s head’s from a range would typically be considered “Safe from high kicks”. He’s that damn flexible.
The thing is when you get caught off guard by a high kick, at the very least it will stun you.
After i caught 2 such kicks from that coach, i can only remember going into the fetal positon because i wasn’t quite sure where i was.
The benefit is not Just a kick to the head.
Dude, thats keeping the hands clean from piss germs. but I havent been able to perfect the kick that pulls the exit door inwards to get out. damn the chi of the inward opening door.
As for high kicks, good to practice for the ability to do it, but low kicks work sweet as. preference and experience means we all have loves and hates in actions used.
TKD. Owned
Even in TKD, it may happen a little more often, but what KidSpat said stands true.
Let’s consider the logic for a second.
If all you do is practice keeping your balance while high kicking…you’re gonna get good at keeping your balance while high kicking.
Shamrock fell, didn’t he? And lost that UFC fight.
And as the late great Ronin (I paraphraze) said once, “You think TKD is shit, then a TDKer roundhouses your head off.” I got kicked by a tdk (why capitalize it?) GIR (OK, woman bb who had said fuck off to her tkd money grubbing McDojo) - and it cracked my neck and Shihan had to put it back together (which was rather frightening in itself - wondering if he knew his shit or was he going to break my neck?). I’ve done Chung Do Kwan and I liked it, hard core training even if they never learn how to fight. One of my current Sensei earned one of his bbs in tkd back in West Texas from a bar fighting redneck bb (I should take this to that thread on tkd that I noticed has a zillion posts…).
Hey Kid? Did you look at any of the vids?
As they said in Kajukenbo, high kicks aren’t too practical on the street, but if you can do high kicks, low kicks are easy.
And I personally love 'em because new bbs look at me and think, “I wonder if the old fart can kick above the knee…” and I side kick their face (once, then it doesn’t work because the’re hip to me and I’m actually old and slow).
Ronin who? I don’t think Ronin is dead, Pat.
What vids?
Ya know I hear this line of thinking a lot, but I don’t think it quite works like that…