2005 Aikido thread what?

Aikido was created by a man who won medals for killing approximately 100 americans with his hands and bayonet during the second world war. New students who see schools that teach a ridge hand to the temple instead of it’s intended target, the throat never get the point. Aikido like Tai Chi taught by most, have become frilly, the instructor never learned properly, or the student didn’t stay long enough. Both of the above styles originally fought and are meant to fight in all three zones. All Tai Chi pushes are meant to be executed as strikes. There are no pushes in Tai Chi. Both styles taught the use of multiple pressure point strikes before even attempting a lock or throw. Films of Morihei Uyeshiba kicking the ass of someone much larger, show what I am talking about. As quickly as it all occurs the opponent is semi-conscious before he is thrown or locked up. This is from the pressure point strikes. All of this fades away as schools want the whole family to come and ground work suffers or eye rakes are not taught, etc. It is really both quite funny and sad, in that MMA fighting among others, begin to patch together some of the logical elements and think they are breaking new ground. It’s like someone self taught on the guitar discovering the chording to a great song before acquiring the power of classical training first.

Your a a piece of shit. Fuck off. And Jimmi Hendrix did that with a guitar.

Usehiba didn’t fight in WWII He was an old man by that time.

your facts and opinion are wrong

First time mommy let you out to play little boy? I suppose you prove one of my points about plenty of unfocused passion. How much better you might be if you chose to study and integrate the lessons from hundreds of years of fighting to survive with your need to be right.

Are you talking to me? I got a shotgun. A couple of years of shooting down my belt. If I were in a pinch that’s all I’d need. Plus traditional Wado ryu karate plus one year of unofficial full contact sparring

This is why there is misconception because pple write crap like this.

FYI Ueshiba didn’t do any fighting in WWII. When the US entered the war he was in his late fifites. He hadn’t been in the military for several decades. He didn’t kill any Americans. And towards the end of the war he ran off to a farm. I honestly don’t know how pple come up with this with out simply looking in a history book and matching times and dates if they did that they would see how silly it is. Ueshiba never kicked anyone’s ass bigger than him because HE NEVER FOUGHT. All you will find is clips of him doing COMPLAINT demonstrations. If you don’t know the difference then you will never truly grasp MA.

You guys are FAGS! Aikido is the shit:

YouTube - AIKIDO VS MMA / BJJ NEWBIE & TEST HIS SKILLS ON A TOURNAMENT

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Finally, to those who think that aikido simply would not work I have to say that aikido is a 1 200 year old martial art used in countless battles. If it didn’t work, the people who practiced it would have been killed off by now. Rooted in pa’qua, shing yi and tai chi as well as blended with the sword style of Yagyu Shinkage Ryu, aikido is an ancient and elegant art. Even today it’s what is taught to the Tokyo Riot Police because it has proven its effectiveness over time. It may be an esoteric art but do not be fooled into dismissing what you may not yet fully understand.

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Who the hell told you this? First of all, Aikido is a synthesized Martial art drawn from Ueshiba’s other training in both traditional Japanese Ryuha, and Judo. None of his training was in Chinese arts like Pa’qua, or Tai Chi. Ueshiba (you know, the originator of Aikido?) lived in the 20th century. Aikido is not 200 years old, more like 60ish years old.

If you want to convince people of Aikido’s effectiveness, that’s fine and dandy. Spouting made up history is not a good way to do that.

Misconceptions of Aikido - No BS Martial Arts

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[quote=pittfrog;2103313]Who the hell told you this? First of all, Aikido is a synthesized Martial art drawn from Ueshiba’s other training in both traditional Japanese Ryuha, and Judo. None of his training was in Chinese arts like Pa’qua, or Tai Chi. Ueshiba (you know, the originator of Aikido?) lived in the 20th century. Aikido is not 200 years old, more like 60ish years old.

If you want to convince people of Aikido’s effectiveness, that’s fine and dandy. Spouting made up history is not a good way to do that.[/quote]

As a practitioner of Aikido, it is my understanding that the above statement is mostly correct (and I only say “mostly” because I do not know all of the history myself, and cannot say with 100% certainty that all of the above information is true. I am in no way disputing the veracity of this statement.). My understanding of Aikido’s history is this: Aikido was developed in the mid 1950’s as a philosophy (not a martial art) to be used in conjunction with the principles and techniques of Aikijutsu, Judo, and Jujutsu and other arts. However, it is also my understanding that the Aiki principles were developed many centuries ago, and were derived from chinese arts such as Pa’Gua (heh, I always thought it was Ba’Gua) and Tai’Chi.
I have found Aikido to be a very useful martial art. I have used my background in Aikido to ease and facilitate my training in the other arts I train in. I do not believe that Aikido is the end-all-beat-all martial, but a very good supplemental art. In my opinion, the warriors of the past who trained in the Aiki principles believed that as well. That is why they trained in Budo or Bujutsu, which was a culmination of many arts including striking, grappling (stand-up and ground), various melee weapons, archery, horsemanship, cooking, dancing and ettiquete (<<spelling?). As an Aikido practioner, I can tell you that some of the biggest misconceptions of the art come from its very own students.