Xyience: Are they the biggest fraud in MMA product placement and marketing?

This website exists because we don’t like most Martial Arts Marketing.

Sorry it’s been so long, much to tell!!

Hello all,

I’m sorry for sparking this debate and then disappearing. I have been spending lots of time improving my site and expanding the Xyience story series. Despite backing up all my stories with factual and verifiable information including recorded conversations and voluminous court records, people still manage to question the validty of the information without taking the time to read the facts. Well, skepticism is to be expected when people try to confront something that appears legitimate when it is really fraudulent.

This story has EVERYTHING to do with MMA. The UFC is the largest and most powerful entity in MMA since they bought PRIDE, and Xyience is their most visible sponsor. Xyience has paid huge bonuses to MMA fighters in sponsorships. However, despite all the hype they’ve been able to garner, they have yet to see the product turn a significant profit. Add to that the fact that the co-founder is an ex-convict who did federal time for money laundering and that no matter how bad things get the UFC won’t drop them, and you have all the ingredients of a possible conspiracy.

I have extensive experience in investigative reporting, and I have never been charged with making anything up, yet now Xyience is suing me claiming I am maliciously trying to cause them harm. They claim in their lawsuit that I alone have cost them $25 million in damages:

In fact, it is actually the Xyience folks who have been slandering me for telling the truth about their shady behavior. I have traced the IP addresses of certain people who have tried to post comments on my site that include fabircated emails painting me as trying to bring the company down. These same comments are identical to bogus blogs produced about me that include completely baseless and false claims about my character, sexual preference, and my sources, some of which had to remain anonymous for fear of repurcussions including death threats that some of those who have gone on the record have received. One IP address that tried to post most of the slanderous comment was linked directly to a Xyience email address.

I am forced to represent myself in this matter, and I am confident that I will prevail and the truth will shine through. I am trying to enlist the folks from the Electronic Frontiers Foundation to help with my case, and hopefully they can give me spome pointers at the very least. I will try and keep everyone posted. Please take the time to read the facts and weigh in.

Thanks,

Rich Bergeron
Fight News Unlimited
Editor/Writer/Webmaster

Whats the point of this? I have used Xyience and it works well. I dont have to take three different things, instead I get the NOX, Creatine and Glutamine from one source.

I read some of the articles and they were sued because they didnt pay somebody. So what? If the people who sued didnt meet specs for the product then I wouldntpay them either.

As far as them linking up with MMA people…Advertising Coup of the Century. Brilliant.

So could you please (without me having to waste another hour reading the articles) get to the nuts and bolts of the complaint?

I think the point he is trying to make, and the point that everyone is missing, is not that Xyience is grass clippings and bitter piss water, but rather that he believes there is some r34lz cr1m3z going on behind t3h sc3nes…

I’ll admit, though, that I haven’t read any of the links.

However, considering that:

A) Money laundering generally involves HUGE sums of money

B) Bad Things happen to people ALL THE TIME over SMALL sums of money

C) Dana W. can probably make someone disappear with a text message from his Amp’d MobileSIZE=1[/SIZE] phone (not that he would, of course!!!) :toothy5:

I’d just try not to think too hard about it…

This looks remarkably like advertising for this guy’s site. Why is it not Trollshido’d again?

The general consensus was that it could (possibly) be legitimately tied to BS in the MA and that it would be better to err on the side of solemn deliberation rather than trash it and face “U guyz suxxors the UFC dicks” or something…

I think.

Oops, and there it goes.

If people want to legitimately discuss this there, they need to do better than POSTING ONE SENTENCE IN ALL CAPS AND A LINK TO SOME GUY’S BLOG.

I have no idea whether or not this topic has merit so I haven’t nuked the thread from orbit. If people want to try again, be my guest. But I’m going to go back and remove the links here because advertising here isn’t free.

After the initial ALL CAP LINKAGE, there was a slightly more serious discussion further down the thread. IIRC, Sam finally moved it over to MABS. You might be able to salvage it by just culling the offending posts and removing the links…

Yeah, I thought about that.

But if there’s enough interest in doing it we’ve got 10+ people with “the power”. I, however, am going to go get my grandmother a lawnmower and then burn a Cohiba.

Maternal or paternal?

Snapper? Toro? John Deer? Mow Tech?

Dominican or… ? you know…

I don’t think there is enough interest in pursuing this. After all, first impressions do count, and the impression Boxer47’s first post gave us was nothing short of fucked up to be honest.

He could try again if he wishes… and I hope he does a much better job than before.

Dominican or… ? you know…
Miamian??? :tongue3:

Shit, I want a smoke so much right now.

Hmmm… Checking the humidor, I see a Punch, un Romeo y Julieta, two Thompsons, a Macanudo, and a Partagas.

No telling how long they’ve been in there. May as well burn one off on the last night the gf is out of town…

He, my g/f is out, too, so I had my smoke. I feel guilty and good at the same time. Unfortunately I don’t have a good cigar so I had to settle for a pedestrian malboro light :tongue6:

All I need now is a beer. :viking:

Don’t complain too much. I’m in the process of quitting. I’m taking that new drug Chantix. It makes me feel ill about half the day, especially when I smoke. The worst part is that it makes all beer taste like refried asshole. It’s awful. I’ll never get my plate at the Flying Saucer at this rate.

Do you go to other forums and spam them with links to your site?

Just wondering.