If these guys don’t know the basic by now they never will.
Some of those guys had some sharp, precision techniques. I’d say they know the basics.
“Some” is the word. These are the guys that usually kick butt.
most just stand there and take hits like there is no tomorrow…
I feel the same way, they should make a league that uses the WCL style Ring, that would be awsome for MMA. Also the WCL has alot of great fighters, it is actually the stand up fighting I prefer to watch next to K-1, I mean where else have you seen a guy get his head knocked off with a 540 hook kick, besides WTF Taekwondo matches, which don’t allow punching to the face. I think that the WCL is a good show, and shouldn’t change anything.
Also the WCL is more like a street fight since everything is fast paced. It also jas a old school bloodsport Kumite’ feel to it, lol, and who doesn’t enjoy that?
Isn’t the whole point of the WCL to be about continuous kickboxing-like action between teams? Why would somebody expect anything else if WCL clearly states what it’s about? I really don’t see a problem with that, and I see it more like a blitzkrieg endurance/power/explosiveness tournament than what people come to think of kickboxing, boxing or MMA.
…maybe i used the wrong fonts in my last post.
I don’t see people defending themselves in WCL. I see people get kicked in the head like it is no big deal. I see people taking jabs, crosses and hooks with reckless abandon. This is very far from any kind of street fight. in a street fight a full power punch to the head usually results in some kind of reaction.
Maybe I have just caught the bad episodes of the WCL.
No you did not. They are all just about like that. IMO this is more dangerous to the fighter then UFC. In UFC one shot sends the guys down, opponents threatens to throw more, ref stops it. Here, guy gets a count and resumes taking more shot to head.
You mean, kinda like the standing 8 count in boxing?
Yeah, but in boxing it’s customary to, y’know, defend and stuff.
Seriously? I think it’s a cool little experiment. Could probably do with some tweaking but it’s still better than a lot of other shit out there.
WCL is awesome. People get KOd left and right. Way better than toughman. Faster paced than any UFC or Pride and with just as much flailing as either one.
So much for defense. Hello concussions and brain damage. Very few fighters exhibit any skill or are allowed to due to the ridiculus rules. Boxers can pound each other round after round and maintain their stamina, these guys run ourt of gas after a minute and a half.
If you like WCL you:
A) Wear shiny pants.
B) Have never heard of Muay Thai.
C) Do _ing _un
D) All of the above.
I know Mezger has a team in the WCL…I saw Crafton Wallace and Pete Spratt fight in it too (I believe they both lost)…
It was kinda bizarre…I agree with most on this board that it was pretty sloppy fighting…I noticed there was little to no evading/countering…just stand-up and duke it out-style fighting…
That’s not to say it wasn’t entertaining, though…if I don’t have any Pride or UFC dvd’s around (when I’m at my GF’s place), and there’s no UFC or Pride on TV…and there’s no K1 on…and IFL’s not on…then I’ll watch WCL…
The rules are designed to be like a Karate point fighting tournament. The whole thing is a diaster. They had a “K1 veteran” in one of the last matches I saw. He had exactly one fight in K1. During his fight he attempted and landed several leg kicks, but did not immediately follow up with another attack and as a result the ref penalized him a point. This happened twice. Of course, forcing an attack immediately following a leg kick forces the head to be open to attack.
You cannot clinch, cannot attack from the clinch, you cannot do a takedown (even a sanshou or judo style throw is out of the question), cannot trip, covering up can get you docked points for “inactivity” (one fight was one by a jumpy point fighter simply because he kept throwing attacks despite them being totally ineffective), leg kicks must be a part of a combination… etc.
Its ugly stuff.
Double post
Come to think of it, I think it would be better if they had contact point sparring, like they did in “Best of the Best” movies. This way most the guys (and girls) can do what they do best, point spar. This way you would have judgemental calls, have lot of complaining from the coaches and the fighters. Home crowd would boo calls, it would be great…
I just saw a few clips of WCL on youtube. Fucking terrible. How long till this crap goes under?
ZOMG t3h boxzing doesnt do that either. Boxing must be the sux0rs! And there are no knees in ADCC. ADCC must stand for Anal Disease Combat Club!
While I’m no fan of the WCL, the WCL doesn’t pretend to be anything more than a version of full contact point-fighting. That’s it. Get over it. Tons of other combat sports have limitations in their rules. Take it for what it is, not what it isn’t.
Personally, I think WCL has a better handle on the team concept than the IFL.
EXCEPT, Boxers and ADCC competitors are good at what they ARE allowed to do. A lot of the WCL fighters are just terrible.