Wing Chun Wins Again

Reviews, Videos, and Everything Else Martial Arts in the News
1

Out of their depth but tell that to opponents
NORTH-WEST martial arts students who competed at the national Brazilian jujitsu championships last weekend were out of their depth, according to their head coach Stuart Clayton.

However, the 14-member kung-fu-trained team was among the most successful in the competition, with two first placings, three seconds and a third.

As head coach of the Tasmanian Wing Chun Academy, Clayton said he was amazed at the achievements of his team, considering the lack of experience of the five adult and nine children competing.

“There just isn’t a competitive kung-fu outlet as it’s a form of self-defence, so we’ve decided to give jujitsu a go,” Clayton said.

"Jujitsu is limited in rules, so we had to play them at their own game.

“There’s no punching or kicking, it’s basically submission wrestling and the only way you can win is through choke or arm lock.”

Tracey Clayton won the women’s lightweight title and came second in the women’s open weight category, while Kristen Smith, of Burnie, finished the open weight in third place.

Tracey is a national karate champion who competed at an international level before switching to kung-fu and jujitsu.

It was the 27-year-old’s first competition in more than seven years.

The national titles won by the club last weekend add to the five titles achieved two months ago at the State jujitsu championships.

“Training the students in jujitsu adds to the quality of the school,” Clayton said.

“The standard of competition is raised, increasing the level of excellence, which is what martial arts is all about.”

The titles won by the Tasmanian Wing Chun Academy outdid the efforts from the club’s Launceston and Hobart counterparts which specialise in jujitsu.

http://www.theadvocate.com.au/news.cgi?type=2&id=202895

…but they still cant get away from the rules vs. no rules thing. :evil6:

2

You are only talking from a Hong Kong Wing Chun perspective. There is grappling in the Futsan styles where it combines with Tai Chi Chuan.

3

Have you got any links on the Futsan styles?

4

Here is a link to an incredible resource’s website. GM Leong has extensive experience training and teaching in Foshan and Hong Kong styles of WC, as well as Tai-Chi, chinese medicine etc. I believe he’s also won full-contact tournaments in China, and is a family disciple to Yip Chun.

He’s the real deal, an incredible fighter who is very hands on and enjoys sparring. Like, he spars people who walk in off the street and has a great sense of humour while doing it. The more they try to hurt him, the greater the amusement.

I’ve known quite a few people who have gravitated there from other lineages and styles. He has improved all of their WC and has produced some truly impressive fighters. A friend of mine who is no novice, told me going to that school was the single best MA experience he has ever had.

http://www.grandmasterleong.com/

5

I have never seen any WC groundwork – which is what this tournament was all about – but seen plenty of WC stand-up grappling, which is what I think you are talking about when you say that Foshan province WC has stand-up grappling.

Anyway I think the nub of the jist is that while the club was a WC club, they taught BJJ too… make you wonder what the quality of the tournament was like that a club that cross-trained in BJJ could take some honours. BJJ might not be too big in Tasmania?

6

Yes I agree.

You are probably right seeing as its quite remote down there and only a small island state.

7

I know that most WC does not have any ground fighting but I have to say that some of them do. I know there are those who have added this aspect to thier game since the UFC and MMA growth in popularity. But this is not the case with all wing/weng chun. As a matter of fact some of the pictures of old Weng chun master are of them actually on the ground! of course it’s not BJJ but this aspect is not entirely ignored by some Wing/Weng chun lineages.

8

I’ve heard this too. That there is a style of WC ground fighting using “3 points of force” but I haven’t seen any.

9

A Wing Chun school that also teaches Muay Thai is a good idea.

Judging from what you have said, he is probably a very competent fighter, yet there is no excuse for this picture. WC flying side kick? Its all in siu lim tao … :icon_bigg

“A young Grandmaster Leong demonstrating the Flying Side Kick.”

10

Antigrappling works. Quick hide this from all the chunners!

This is mind boggling, seasoned jiujitsu practitioners should be able to outdo standup fighters in a grappling tourney…

11

give them a couple years, theyll claim that stuff was in Chum Kil - “oh yea the double front kick and sidekick was actually a step and a jump kick”

like their hidden iron palm and grappling moves

eventually they will say that firearm training and how to cook a 5 course meal is also hidden between the futs, bongs, and paks.

12

Don’t confuse McDojos with honest practitioners of systems.

BJJ is just Judo and should be renamed as such. Its misrepresentation to allow it to have its own name!

13

I’ve been preaching that since Helio was a zygote.

14

Ng Mui invented the grappling.

15

The guy in the pic has experience in a large number of styles - several kungfu, Wu Shu, Tai Chi and Muay Thai, if not others. I imagine that photo was for a movie or to promote a fight or something like that.

16

Isn’t ‘the Advocate’ that gay magazine? Seems appropriate.

17

So are they actively training in BJJ/Sub grappling or are they saying WT/WC/VT has it all?

18

They used centerline theory.

19

I couldnt click that link. It timed out.

The only thing I can say about that is…

THE Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Nationals are next month on Sept 25th.

http://www.ajjc.org/

So like…was this one of those, Atlantic NorthEast BJJ Invitational Nationals that have 50 people competing? Because…“The Nationals” as the BJJ perceives it comes next month. Dunno what these WC peeps were doing. Props to them for entering though.

20

The australian nationals perhaps?
[URL=http://www.bjj.com.au/clubs.html]