Why the Martial Arts are a Haven For Sexual Predators

Long before Mike Pence slimed up the political scene, that was the Billy Graham rule. I think the guy who first brought that sort of integrity to the scene should be the one to take credit… Just saying.

Yeah, but it is more fun to all it the Mike Pence rule, because then this happens.
And people will then be more likely to remember the guidance.
Irritating sand, sometimes produces pearls.

Bullshido needs a “Slyest Troll” tag, and you need to be its owner.

The standards in the IABA (Irish governing body for amature boxing)

All coaches must be certified by LE

Two adults present in all classes

Not fail safe, but providing basic protections for both student and coach

Yeah in BJJ, especially under Brazillians they don’t get a lot of those simple safeguards.

When I ran the kids program at the local ATOS club I was essentially scoffed at for wanting to follow the Boy Scout Youth protection standards I grew up with. Like seriously, I don’t see adults and children needing to use the locker rooms and showers at the same time.

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We don’t have any changing facilities

Students come ready and return sweaty

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If she went after him when he was 15…

BJJ has no central governing body in control of BJJ in the USA, with a set of coaching ethics and standards in place, with some sort of ability to enforce rules.

Even that would not stop abuse, looking at what happened for example to Kayla Harris in Judo, and the gymnasts in USA Judo. There was some widespread abuse in Judo decades ago as well, but one of the prime instigators, although he resigned, was never prosecuted.

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I read the article, @Phrost .

I think you should publish it, of course.

You might want to add in some sort of blurb about how combat sports that have national governing bodies do have Coaching Code of Ethics. Here is the general one from the USOC.

Obviously, even this sort of thing doesn’t stop abuse, but, there are at least clear code of ethics that coaches have to sign onto (literally) and receive official training in to be able to coach under the banner of the organization.

https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Karate/Officials-and-Coaches/Coaches-Resources/USOC-Coaching-Ethics-Code

I was around at the national level as a member of the USA Judo BOD back when the USOC re-organized and modernized with a set of coaching ethics. The meeting where that first came out had quite a few squeals of dismay from people who were all “consenting adult” about the topic of sexual relations between teachers/coaches and students.

Same with having to come up with formal coaching performance standards.

Judoka wear traditional uniforms, BTW…

Lulz

For example: https://www.teamusa.org/usa-judo/safe-sport-program

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Damn. Total data failure. Have to redo.

That pic with Irvin and his student. I’ve never seen gay porn but I imagine this is what it looks like. Those guys have a weird come hither look instead of the badass BJJ they were going for.

He had it right, that’s for sure.

I’m surprised he never went on the offensive over that bit. They criticized him and tried to twist it to make him sound like a weirdo but that’s the way things have to be right now.

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I believe that’s because nobody wants to look at those numbers honestly. It makes too many people offended in every concievable camp. Our social conventions are meaningless & trivial compared to our biology.

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No way , if you take a camera into any bjj class and start snapping you will catch all kinds of gay looking shit .

Plenty of legit stuff with which to insult Irvin no need to fish.

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Perhaps they are in a loving relationship built on mutual respect and shared passions. Nothing wrong with that.

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Oh, they have a shared passion alright. I could tell you stories for days about what went on back in the day in the affiliation, but you’ve taught me that speaking out is a bad thing and its best to cover most of it up to avoid retaliation.

It’s not like Pence is joe blow either. He’s a likely target for all sorts of accusations.

Joke: Mike Pence and a transgender POC Marxist feminist get into an elevator together…

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Mike electrocures them and they all walk out and join the marines !

No, they accept Jesus as their lord and savior.

I’m tempted to make a mean joke about AOC here. She’s an extremely charming woman, I just think she needs to put down the little red book and stop it with all the populist psuedocommunist manifesto rhetoric.

I don’t trust her one bit and the people she campaigns with would jump ship just as quickly to Trump as they would the ghost of Mussolini. The populists, as a rule, cannot be trusted.

Not that you need convincing or anything. I’m just talking to the wind.