who do you thnk is the daddy of the UFC
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Grand Master H.U. Lee
Well that one is hard to say, but pound for pound here are my top picks in no paticular order…
- Chuck Lidell
- BJ Penn
- Murillo Bustamante
- Matt Hughes
- Ricco Rodriguez
- Genki Sudo<
- Phil Baroni
Two guys walk into a bar…ouch that’s gotta hurt.
Caol Uno, biotch. Caol Uno could easily beat Bob Sapp and Royce Gracie at the same time.
And that’s what I call REAL Ultimate Power!!!
BJ Penn dropped Caol Uno in 11 seconds. There’s no way he could do that to Bob Sapp or Royce Gracie.
Where’s your brain merc?
There’s only one problem there migo, Bob Sapp isn’t a UFC fighter.
Two guys walk into a bar…ouch that’s gotta hurt.
Jesus Migo, remember to turn on your sarcasm detector before you come back from lurking.
And switch your avatar back to that DOA dude, your current one sucks.
And that’s what I call REAL Ultimate Power!!!
KEN SHAMROCK
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Grand Master H.U. Lee
Ken Glamrock? I don’t think so…a ceartain Japanese wrestler would highly disapprove…as well as Don Frye.
Two guys walk into a bar…ouch that’s gotta hurt.
that is only two people who have beaten him. if you really wanna get real mo one wants to step into the octagon with him.
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Grand Master H.U. Lee
WAIT I AM THE DADDY OF THE UFC IF KEN SHAMROCK ISNT.
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snicker
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Grand Master H.U. Lee
Some NHB greats and their total (not UFC only) NHB records:
[wins, losses, draws]
Bas Rutten 26-4-1
Pat Militech 26-5-2
Vanderlei Silva 20-3-1
Mark Weir 17-0-0
Tito Oritz 14-2-0
Mark Kerr 13-3-0
Mark Coleman 12-5-0
Ricco Rodriquez 11-1-0
Don Freye 11-1-0
Vladimir Matyushenko 11-2-0
Eugine Jackson 11-5-0
Chuck Lidell 10-1-0
Murilo Bustamante 10-1-0
Vitor Belfort 10-3-0
Rickson Gracie 9-0-0
Dan Severn 9-4-0
Marco Ruas 8-3-2
Ken Shamrock 8-4-2
Pete Williams 8-5-0
Tank Abbot 8-7-0
Randy Couture 7-4-0
Frank Shamrock 5-0-0
Maurice Smith 4-3-0
As you can see, there are only 3 undefeated fighter: Mark Weir, Rickson Gracie and Frank Shamrock. That doesn’t really mean a whole lot though. Weir is not a heavyweight and Frank only has 5 wins, Rickson 9. Bas Rutten, Pat Militech and Vanderlei Silva have wins in the 20s. Its hard to really say who is the best or toughest fighter here.
My personal favorites are: Vanderlei Silva, Mark Kerr Rickson Gracie and Frank Shamrock.
:is your hero missing, find his stats here:
http://www.ufc.tv/fighters/ufcFighters.asp
http://www.sherdog.com
Edited by - 9chambers on November 07 2002 05:38:16
Frank Shamrock actually has over 6 defeats, one of the being to John Lober…don’t know where you got your statistics They may be excluding some events. Never mind I see it… Yeah those have been doctored. Eugene Jackson…bwhahahaahhaahah…inside joke, I actually like Eugene.
Two guys walk into a bar…ouch that’s gotta hurt.
Frank Shamrock 18-7-1
(sorry, I got that other stat from UFC TV, this is his stat from Sherdog)
Royce Gracie 12-2-1
Karim “Kimo” Sorensen 4-1-1
Keith Hackney 2-2-0
Newton is my favourite (UFC)
Nogueria and Rickson (Pride)
“If you have to ask, you’ll never know
Funky mother fuckers will not be told to go.”
For UFC, I really think Liddell is kicking ass & taking names. No, I don’t like him as well as I like Silva, but Silva’s Pride… Liddell’s the one to watch right now in the UFC, wait and see! I also think Bustamante is pretty damn good.
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My favorite is Frank Shamrock, I remember his debut, he ended the match in 22 seconds with an arm bar on th wrestler guy.
“Wrestlers need a lesson in submission, I’m the one to teach them.” - Frank Shamrock
RIP TITOS LEGS OFF SHAMROCK. SHAMROCK IS EVERYONES DADDY.
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Grand Master H.U. Lee
(putting on fireproof suit)
I really have a problem with Rickson being listed as a EVENT (notice EVENT as in under PRIDE etc) great/legend. Not that he is not good but because he has only done 11 fights!!!(going of Vale Tudo Japan,Pride and Collesuiem 2000 total) Looking at the other who are well into 20+ bouts doesn’t make him look good. I would like to see him get in the ring more that is all.
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Edited by - Asia on November 14 2002 10:10:19
Okay, so Rickson is 11-0-0 then? I am taking your word over Sherdog.com - they have him at 9-0-0 with the fights listed here:
http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/displayfighter.cfm?fighterid=292
Rickson Gracie 11-0-0
Holy crap, that stat I have for Dan severn was from UFC TV but on Sherdog they have him listed as 44-6-4. They have all the fights listed here:
http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/displayfighter.cfm?fighterid=52
Dan “The Beast” Severn 44-6-4
I am assuming that a lot of those fights were before NHB was big. Dan has been a submission wrestler and pit fighter for years.