In my art, the point is to set up the opponent so that they are practically already falling(or unbalanced) by the time the throw occurs, basically attack the structure and then throw. How does your style throw?
We hit them in the face until they fall over. Does that count? 
Seriously though, I remember once being taught in a TKD class an overhead Judo throw as part of the “grappling now included” deal with McDojos that the UFC spurred. Had no idea how it worked, couldn’t do it.
Back in HS wrestling, the throws/takedowns mostly involved creating the unbalance and achieving the throw at the same instant, I remember a front hip throw (grab the hips, step behind leg, turn) and a head throw (from one arm headlock, press with the hip and turn).
And that’s what I call REAL Ultimate Power!!!
That idea(unbalancing and throwing) also shows up in some throws from the system I practice, although different application. Basically trap the legs, elbow the mid section, the combination takes care of making the throw work, plus you can miss the throw and still accomplish a strike(elbow), though that’s not the ideal.
In many styles it’s ideal to have your man off balance before executing a throw. This way he simply can’t resist it. In Judo and Ju-Jitsu they yank people (usually by the arms or lapel) into the throws like the basic hip throws, shoulder throws and drop throws. The man is usually off balance and must be in motion for hand throws like “kotegaeshi” (Wrist turning throw), “Te Nage” (Hand throw) or the Corckscrew (Ude Guruma) in arts like Aikido.
But you can also set up a throw with a pain technique, or a strike to take their mind off of what’s about to happen to them. Another tactic is to actually ask your attacker a question to take their mind away from defense. When you ask a guy a question, even if he doesn’t want to answer his brain will automatically begin searching for an answer. So to ask a confusing question like “Have you ever eaten chocolate spaghetti?”, will momentarily confuse a guy, and you’ll see it in his face because his brain, for a fleeting moment, is working out the question. When you see that look in their eyes, their on the ground before they know exactly what happened.
I agree with that … the setting up throws with a yank, a push or a strike … I’ve never tired asking him trivia though …
My instructor is a 6th degree in Judo and an 8th degree in BJJ. He teaches and focuses on many throws from Judo. He often uses the principle of pulling your opponent towards you(or away)knowing that his natural reaction would be to apply counter pressure in the opposite direction. He then goes WITH the opponent. Like pulling someone forward and when they shift their weight BACK to compensate he teaches us to throw all of our weight into our opponents with a throw like O Soto Gari.
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Ah, the big sweep. Sometimes the best techniques are the simple straightforward ones, although I always considered an Osoto Gari more of a takedown than a throw.
Edited by - Darth on August 27 2002 22:13:15
Darth Paul
“kotegaeshi” is NOT the throw it refers what you are going to the kote, wrist area. Kotegaeshi nage would be the acutal throw.
Many pple have said some key part about peforming the throw, mainly unbalancing first.
I have a question on the EFFECT of throws. Many throws we see practiced nowadays have been modified for safer use in competion. But many of of the old throw had very devestating effecst on the person. Several nage waza were designed to dump the opponent on the head with the aim of breaking the neck, etc. and other would slam joints into the ground with the aim of causing serious damage.
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I wonder why this is the first thread in trollshido?
I’d add to Gezere that good Judoka using the same throw can drop you nice on your ass or back, or fuck you up bad. Whatever you do, if you are a standup guy, don’t try to use your shitty throws against Judoka.