We likey semantics

[QUOTE=Uncle Skippy;2615360]I was in contact with Mr Lewis last week.

Here is the content of our e-mail exchange. My focus was to be courteous to try to let Mr Lewis present his side of the story and provide as much information as he could. When trying to discover information, far too many people shut down early in the conversation because of accusations. I wanted to make sure that Mr Lewis had the opportunity to provide as much information as he could without feeling ‘accused’ of anything.

At this point, I don’t know if there is much more that he’s willing to discuss. It is obvious his last e-mail was designed to shut down the conversation.

There are a couple of things I wanted to note about the conversation:

  • “Ronin Black Belt”: I asked if this was a rank through an existing school or a reference to a masterless Samurai. He didn’t address that in his reply (nor anything else). My gut feeling is that it is an acknowledgment that he did promote himself.

  • Ryron has not ranked Mr Lewis: The mention of such from MartialArtsNH is without merit since this comes directly from Mr Lewis himself. In fact, Mr Lewis has never claimed any lineage under any instructor.

  • Numerous statements to minimize the meaning of belts: We’ve seen “a belt only holds up your pants” and similar references before, along with “my students compete and do well elsewhere”. If the belt doesn’t mean that much, then why claim any rank at all? Why (based on my gut feeling) did he promote himself to any belt if it is all about results? We all pretty much know the answer to this, but the hypocrisy is rather blatant.

Why would any person want to talk to Ryron to get information about Mr Lewis? Why would Mr Lewis put that burden on Ryron to defend him?

I’m sure that Mr Lewis has skill. I’m sure that Ryron will support Mr Lewis’ skill level, but everybody here knows that it is NOT about his skill level, his personality, or his performance.

It is about making unsubstantiated claims and the lack of respect for the traditions of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (belting himself).[/QUOTE] Did you ever follow-up with Ryron on this? While it seems quite obvious he has not been promoted by anyone to BB, perhaps Ryron could shed some light on it. I’d be happy to do this if no one else has.

I dont think there is a point now. He has admitted self promotion. I feel bad for his students who feel they are being promoted by a legit BB.

Then you don’t understand MABS. There is a point because if he chooses to never get a legitimate Black Belt there will always be a thread, with a response, that shows he was never ranked by anyone he may claim.

[QUOTE=ps1;2624139]Did you ever follow-up with Ryron on this? While it seems quite obvious he has not been promoted by anyone to BB, perhaps Ryron could shed some light on it. I’d be happy to do this if no one else has.[/QUOTE]

I’m not going to bug Ryron with this.

Ryron could say that Mr Lewis is the best black belt on the face of the planet. That doesn’t change the fact that Mr Lewis is self-ranked.

Ryron could say that Mr Lewis is the best instructor ever. That doesn’t change the fact that Mr Lewis is self-ranked.

Ryron could say that Mr Lewis is the most personable, and nicest person he’s ever known. That doesn’t change the fact that Mr Lewis’ students do not have a legitimate training lineage.

There is no point in writing Ryron because anything that Ryron says doesn’t change the facts.

[QUOTE=It is Fake;2626789]Then you don’t understand MABS. There is a point because if he chooses to never get a legitimate Black Belt there will always be a thread, with a response, that shows he was never ranked by anyone he may claim.[/QUOTE]

I was stating why bother calling Ryron, Rener or anyone to see. Scott Lewis already stated the fact he was a self promoted promoted black belt. Thanks to this forum people can Google him and find out the truth.

No, you said there is no point. I was explaining that there is a point because it adds to the evidence if he ever shoots his mouth off again. Yes, frauds do wait a few years and colorfully spin what is said in a thread. Especially, when there is nothing that refutes them except “well he said this on a forum” that no longer exists.
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There is no point in writing Ryron because anything that Ryron says doesn’t change the facts.[/QUOTE]It supports the facts and that is a point. If you don’t want to that is fine, but you are wrong that “there is no point.” Yes, semantics.

Semantics… lol… bottom line is he’s a fake.

Bottom line is keep your lol out of MABS now.