Dude, LOL at that video and the made up crap in it. Do you really believe animal ranching uses up more water then toilets and showers for everyone in america? What uses more water, a human or 10 chickens? Also, seriously, do you know how hard it is to permenantly destroy water?
Does every detectable particle of e coli indicated fecal contamination? Since when are vegan kids taller and stronger then meat eating kids? If I post a picture of a mistreated animal, that means all animals are mistreated, right? ALSO EATING MEAT JUST NOT FAIR WAAAAAGH not to mention IF YOU GO ON A REGULATED DIET, PERIOD, your risk of heart disease and obesity goes down, it doesn’t have to be vegan. You’re better off with some fish in there, for sure.
Seriously. Veganism is a product of pussy culture. It’s a product of people growing up isolated from nature, not understanding that they are eating a living thing, and then being shocked when it turns out the process of peeling that delcious meat off the bone is fucking messy.
I also don’t like the hippie propaganda, and I can understand people not liking it shoved down their throats, but I have been vegetarian for about 6 years, and it’s been nothing but good for me.
I realize you’re trolling, but between this and your worries that if we don’t eat them cows will take over the world you’re not coming off too bright. I haven’t watched the video, but the usual concern with water is not the total amount of water on earth, but the amount of drinkable water. Large amounts of cattle produce large amounts of shit, which is not good to drink. Until very recently, if you were outside populated areas you could actually drink straight from creeks and streams without worrying about e-coli and ghirardia. Now you would be well advised to boil or add chlorine.
As an aside, Newtonian physics does not prevent the amount of water on earth from changing. As we speak, water vapor is escaping into outer space, and when the earth was formed it had no water on it until large numbers of icy meteorites hit it.
Pretty easy actually: add table salt to water and submerge two electrodes with sufficient voltage and you’ll notice bubbles forming at each electrode. At one electrode they will be hydrogen gas bubbles, and at the other they will be oxygen, both from newly destroyed water molecules.
There. Did I spoil everyone’s fun yet?
Phillistine. The Flesh of Beasts is to be cooked over open flame. Go buy yourself a $30 webber grill. The seasoning looks good, but now that you have a grill, take the whole head of garlic, slice of the tops, and grill right next to your steak. THen squeeze the gooey roasted garlic onto said steak. You are right on the money re. the vino - I recommend an '03 cabernet sauvignon, or anything tasty that costs less than $10.
So grill that shit. Especially if you are living with all women - rocking the grill gives serious “man of the house” cred.
I live and work in and around working cattle ranches. I have seen THE EVILS OF FEEDLOTS first hand. I wouldn’t want to take a swim in the sewage treatment lagoon of a commercial pig farm - but it isn’t doing more net harm to the environment just because it’s all in one place.
It’s doing LESS because it’s away from the common aquifer, and its distribution is controlled.
You could NEVER just walk up to creeks and rivers and drink from them unless you had a great deal of common sense about when and where you harvested water.
I don’t think water vapor escaping into space or electro-separation of water are germane to what we’re discussing - for our purposes, the earth’s water system is pretty much closed.
Heh, didn’t expect to have a conversation with someone who actually knows something. You’re probably right that sewage and runoff aren’t the biggest concerns (at least in the developed world). After more thought, probably the major concern is simply that to feed a human with meat requires a lot more produce and water than to feed that human directly with the produce. This isn’t so much of a problem in North America, I think, but elsewhere the available water may not be sufficient. I think China is actually using more groundwater than can be replaced.
Not true. My dad spent much of his early life doing this. As long as you were relatively near the source…Now you’d be dumb to even drink out of a spring.
True, but I felt like being nerdy, and you did ask.
Trust me man elk shit or carp shit will make you just as sick as angus beef shit or pork shit. Shit is a pretty universal compound from critter to critter.
Not true: different animals carry different diseases. For instance, girardia isn’t carried by carp, only mammals. Large concentrations of animals also allow for better incubation and transmission of diseases and parasites.
So your dad tells you stories about how you used to be able to drink from any ole’ creek and now, empirically, that has CHANGED and you can’t, as a result of agribusiness moving from a free range (animals wade and shit in those water bodies) to a commercial (animals live in barns for more of their lives and their sewage goes through treatment)?
Also, not every ‘crop’ is created equal. you can nourish a domestic animal on crops and crop by-products that are not human palatable - cattle can eat things like hay and free range grass that don’t take as much agricultural energy to grow. They can also eat PORTIONS of human palatable crops that are compost otherwise, ie the non-delicious parts of soy and corn and wheat, and the low-quality portions of those harvests.
You can also run livestock in areas not suited to farming - areas that aren’t level enough, are forrested, or are too hard to irrigate artificially. Free range animals can also be said to act as a dynamic harvester and storer of passive vegetative biomass - a cow is a way to harvest grass throughout the year and render it human edible.
The idea that ‘crops- sustainaible - ranching - NOT’ is also a first world conceit. People in developing nations are more at the mercy of weather and politics then we are, and it makes sense for them to deversify their agricultural holdings by using animals that can move and reproduce.
As a matter of fact, speaking of artificial irrigation, I think america uses too much water turning valleys in california into non-deserts so that slacker vegans can have produce all year.
You’re a fucking moron and I’m much smarter than you’ll ever wish to be. I want you to fucking die by drowning in cow shit you stupid shitfuck.
Listen, you’re a faggot. Newtonian physics has everythign to do with the amount of water on the earth. Things cannot be created or destroyed. They just are. You’re a faggot moron who knows nothing about what the fuck you’re talking about.
I lived on a farm and worked on a ranch until I was 12 years old. It’s not like animals haven’t been shitting all over the place for millions of years or anything. You’re an idiot. I dont’ even want to argue with you, just stomp your face into a jar.
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You make my thread title true. Suck my nuts, they’re vegetarian.
