Hunter/Kim are not Dr. HaHa Lung. Take my word for it!!:qright3:
Sorry Dave we can’t do that. It’s MABS proof or gtfo.
[quote=Luka73;1889510]Hi all,
Someone on another forum requested more information on Haha Lung, and in my search I found that y’all had sort of the same thing going, so I thought you’d be interested in a copy of my findings:
Lung certainly seems to want to keep his identity secret. What with copyrighting his books under various pseudonyms (Ralph/Ralf Dean Omar, Dirk Skinner), and registering his website through a domain registrar proxy and all.
But here’s a tip: if Lung wants to play the role of a covert ninja, he needs to learn to leave his family the fuck out of his books.
Just by taking a cursory glance at the dedications in two of his books, one is able to have Lung’s real identity narrowed down to three possible siblings.
For example, take a look at his dedication in Mind Manipulation:
Now take a look at the dedication found in the similarly titled Mind Penetration:
If at this point it isn’t yet obvious that Naomi Belle Shifferly is his sister, and Agnes Shifferly is his mother (and that Haha Lung is therefore either James, Nancy, or Richard Shifferly), take a look at the Customer Reviews tab of a used copy of his Theatre of Hell book,
Thanks mom :). Her email, btw, is ashifferon@aol.com, with it probably not being an overly difficult task to coax his name out of her if we wanted to see whether he’s James, Nancy, or Richard Shifferly. I don’t have access to more of his books, but it is further likely that Haha Lung’s name could be narrowed down further by examining any other potential dedications and examining the social networking links that form/using a simple process of elimination.
As it currently stands, one could also go ahead and start calling the Shifferlys (who are likely located in/around Mansfield, Ohio*), saying you are a publisher looking for another book deal (this is of course assuming you actually are a publisher looking for a book deal, as I wouldn’t want to encourage any potentially illegal pretexting) until you invariably get the correct sibling, or one of them helpfully says ‘no you want my brother/sister…’.
*No, that location wasn’t selected randomly. Rather, an old people search showed that there was (is?) a ‘Ralf Omar’ living in Mansfield (though that listing has since disappeared). There’s also a James Shifferly in Mansfield that was arrested for robbery/attempted murder a couple years ago (incidentally, Lung has also written a book entitled Prison Killing Techniques: Blade, Bludgeon and Bomb, published under his Ralf Dean Omar moniker), and finally there’s the fact that many of Lung’s earlier books were published by a micro-publisher ‘Alpha Publications’, which is, again, located in Ohio.
Anyway, sorry for ‘bumping’ such an old thread, I hope it was relevant.[/quote]
Boy, areu wayyyyyy off base! Maybe do some more research.:XXphyhsas
This has already been discussed to death, and quite frankly nobody cares. Whoever this new larper is, he is still a larper. Still no credibility, still no evidence to the contrary.
[quote=Jebuyaga;814854]I didn’t want to go creating a new thread, so I chose one. I’m writing a post on haha lung, there is a thread on haha lung so I post in in the thread on haha lung…
The linking to the other threads was just to summarize (ashida kim = haha and the paladin press - ashida stuff), because the two threads are pretty much about the same thing. Why are there two almost identical thread’s on the same guy anyway? And YES I know there is another name there as well but it doesen’t seem to change the discussion much.
The conclusion in this thread seems to be that AK/RD/CH is Haha, but according to the paladin press/ashida kim business relationship it seems unlikely. So who the hell is THIS guy?[/quote]
wouldn’t you like to know???:lol:
If you have nothing relevant to add, quit posting in MABS. This section is heavily moderated, and trolling is seldom tolerated.
Dr. Lung started out with Okinawan Shotkan Karate-jitsu.Then turned to Tai Chi Chaun (fighting style). Along the way he also picked up Vietnamese Cao Dai Tiger style Kung Fo. Dr. Lung now practices Zendo Kan-ryu Taijutsu, sometimes referred to as Shadowhand a form of Ninjutsu.:ingun:
Prove anything you say with solid backup.
A little more info on this please ?
There are a few books including one on Cao Dai with some larpy ninja-looking line drawings. If this is the basis for the conclusion that this Funny Lung/Dragon studied any of these arts, I’d say he’s got nothing in terms of anything reliable or credible.
Dr. Lung started his martial arts training in the early 80’s.
You don’t seem to get it.
Quit posting crap, or prepare to be trolled.
We’re looking for some kind of proof here
Try this:
In detail:
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How do you know anything about this Dr. Lung?
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Do you have any proof or just troll words to back up what you say?
I assume you’re referencing Shotokan in my Quote?
Why do you state it to be Okinawan ?
Why the Jitsu distinction ?
[quote=Urban Achiever;2069259]Ha Ha Lung is Ashida Kim! Shit! I bought a book from him!
I need a public flogging.
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ashida Kim and Dr. Lung are NOT the same person:laughing9
[quote=Zen_Warrior;2071663]I have personally read all of his books, purely out of interest of the mind and the infusion with Martial Arts (Especially ninjitsu which is my current study).
I understand the personal opinions given by all, however to be able to slander Dr. Lung without fully doing any investigations into the realism of what he teaches and says in his books, is completely uncalled for.
A bit of respect is due to Dr. Haha Lung as his insight and wisdom into certain aspects of martial arts and life in general is something to be admired.[/quote]
Thank you from Dr. HaHa Lung:blob1:
[quote=Sri Hanuman;2083601]Johnny13, I don’t mean to be a dick, but unless you provide some scholarly confirmation that I can cross-reference against historical documents, this is all wishful thinking and opinions.
I feel I should again clarify: Unless you have solid evidence backed by a credible historian/historians, it’s all empty talk. Wishful thinking <> fact. Haha Lung <> credible source, as we can not verify the credibility of someone using a pseudonym (no way to trace where they got their PhD/MD, their martial arts training, their background. etc.) I hope I have made this clear.
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And just because this point needs to be hammered home as many times as it takes…
YouTube - Martial Arts Myths: Ninjutsu: Addemdum[/quote]
Dr. Lung started out with Okinawan Shotkan Karate-jitsu and then turned to Tai Chi Chuan ( Tai Chi fighting style) Along the way he picked up Vietnamese Cao Dai tiger style Kung Fu. Dr Lung now practices Zendo Kan-ryu Taijutsu sometimes referred to as Shadowhand a form of Ninjutsu ( art of ninja):laughing9