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Two heroes warn of night dangers

Werribee Banner

Apr 9, 2003

TWO local youths who rescued a girl from a sexual attack by a teenage gang have warned of the dangers of walking alone at night.

Hoppers Crossing youths Nick Evans and Chris Barber, both 17, stumbled on the incident about 8pm on March 21 in a car park at the corner of Derrimut and Hogans roads, Hoppers Crossing. They risked their own safety when they approached the girl’s attackers, five well-built men they estimated were aged 18 to 20. “The girl was crying, two of them were touching her on the chest,” Nick said. “I didn’t want to just walk away and then read in the paper about her being raped the next day.” Nick and Chris were walking from Werribee Plaza to McDonald’s where a friend worked when they came across the attack.

Chris admitted to nerves as he and Nick approached the group, but said their martial arts training gave them confidence as they approached. Chris has years of boxing training, while Nick is proficient in taekwondo. Both represented MacKillop Secondary College in taekwondo and were part of the school’s team that won silver at a state schools competition this year. Chris and Nick explained that when they confronted the group, one of the men threatened to stab them. “Then he punched me in the head,” Chris said, “but I put my elbow up into his face and he bent over.” Nick also said he was attacked by two of the men, but landed a side kick to the chest of one. He said that when Chris joined him after fighting off his attacker, the group turned and ran, yelling abuse.

They came to the aid of the girl, and described her as being in a state of shock. Despite their urgings, she did not report the incident to the police. Nick and Chris said their ultimate message was for people to prevent it happening to them. “Don’t get into the situation in the first place, travel in groups or organise to be picked up,” Nick said. Chris said: “You need to be careful - don’t walk home by yourself at night. Guys need to be careful too - they will be picked on for no reason.” They did not advise people to confront attackers as they had. Snr Sgt Peter Miller of Werribee police is investigating the pair’s report, and agreed that planning was a key factor in staying safe. “There is not a huge number of taxis around Werribee at night, so people need to think ahead and plan lifts with friends and family,” he said. He advised that when it was necessary to walk home to stick to main roads, walk against the traffic, and keep in a group.

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Kungfoolss says- “Believe it or not!!!”

Edited by - kungfoolss on April 15 2003 01:54:02

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I know, I know. Given the track record of these Tkd folk, you’d think this was some sort of wet dream of theirs, but it really happened. Truth really is stranger than fiction. (Begins hearing the X-files theme music playing in the background)…

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Edited by - kungfoolss on April 15 2003 02:03:52

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What do you do all day, Kungfools ?

I know Werribee. Its a small town out in the sticks here in Victoria, Australia.

How the hell do you get an article from their local newspapers website (and why do they need a website…)

Don’t view the glass as half empty, view it as half full of shit.

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What do you do all day, Kungfools ?

I know Werribee. Its a small town out in the sticks here in Victoria, Australia.

How the hell do you get an article from their local newspapers website (and why do they need a website…)

I work most of the day, then I research, relax and do more research.

Is that where it is? I didn’t bother to check the source. I just know Australia’s vast with a lot of crappy land in the center and that your crime is going through the roof.

The story just popped up one day on a random internet search.

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Kungfoolss

I feel I have to say something

  1. The per-head of population crime is a LOT higher in America

  2. It’s true, a truly hardened brawler CAN beat a martial artist or sportsman of less than master status; their conditioning is on the street after all.

However, that you use this fact to promote some moronic
“Navy Seals Taekwondo” is misguided and self deceiving. If you want to correspond with someone who knows what they’re talking about and you wish to engage in a sensible debate, have a chat to Marc Macyoung.

I have brain damage; you are just a wanker.

“The streetfighter will always win!” Jerry, former wrestling boxing and judo champ

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Foolss you need to post more positive stuff about martial arts.

You’d be a hell of a lot more popular!!!

“An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind”
-Ghandi

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elipson-
"Foolss you need to post more positive stuff about martial arts.

You’d be a hell of a lot more popular!!!"

No he wouldn’t :slight_smile:

“I do not agree with what you have to say but, I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
-Voltaire

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Foolss you need to post more positive stuff about martial arts.

You’d be a hell of a lot more popular!!!

If I cared an iota about winning the popularity contest, I’d probably go around sucking up to everyone that I agreed with on the Bullshido site; similar to what Poet does.

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Kungfoolss:
Australia’s vast with a lot of crappy land in the center

True - but the giant rock right in the middle is kinda cool :slight_smile:

Angry_Spastic:

  1. The per-head of population crime is a LOT higher in America

What is your point ?

Don’t view the glass as half empty, view it as half full of shit.

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True - but the giant rock right in the middle is kinda cool :slight_smile:

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I’m partial to the rock of Gibraltar myself ->

http://www.gregssandbox.com/places/spain/rock-05.jpg

Oh, that’s just Angry_Spastics liberal way of excusing crime.

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However, that you use this fact to promote some moronic
“Navy Seals Taekwondo” is misguided and self deceiving. If you want to correspond with someone who knows what they’re talking about and you wish to engage in a sensible debate, have a chat to Marc Macyoung.

Promoting some moronic Navy Seals Taekwondo? Who’s doing that?

I acutally had to look up this Marc fellow on a search engine ->

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Marc+Macyoung

He looks a bit ordinary, dare I say ‘flabby?’ Hey, if he’s your hero, whom am I to state otherwise (well…not until he pops up in Black Belt magazine pushing his version of the “ultimate reality fighting art” then I’ll have a few things to say about him)

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lol

"“Then he punched me in the head,” Chris said, “but I put my elbow up into his face and he bent over.” "
Translation: “I was scared and didn’t know how to block properly. I must have hit him in the face with a body part that is not my leg.”

“He said that when Chris joined him after fighting off his attacker, the group turned and ran, yelling abuse.”
lol wusses

KFSS-lol wet dream
FM-“How the hell do you get an article from their local newspapers website (and why do they need a website…)”
everyone has a website

–
Hard work, Patience, Dedication.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed later.
“Just one more…rep!!! ARGH!!!” Collapses

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I went back and took another look at one of those pics, it says Marc’s some sort of christian martial artist. What’s that about?
Do you beat up your opponents all the while extolling the virtues of their Lord and Savior?

You know, the kind of thing the Crusaders used to do during the Middle Ages, murdering the heretics and infidels all in the name of Christ. (Chuckling)

www.christianmartialartist.com/ marcmacyoung.html

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I think MacYoung is ridiculous. I tried really hard to see what people thought was so great about him, read every article on his website. Boils down to: knives can kill you, don’t listen to those other guys teaching knife defense, oh and buy my knife defense video!

The most miraculous power that can verifiably be attributed to “chi” is its ability to be all things to virtually all people, depending on what version of the superstition they are attempting to defend at any given moment.

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I wasn’t aware Macyoung was a Christian. I have a rabid dislike of street preachers of any persuasion and haven’t used what I like to call my “universal theological argument” (literally jump up screaming and waving arms, leaving preacher to flee in confusion), but I will eventually if pressed.

The thing I liked about MacYoung was that he pointed out that martial arts and self defence are not ultimately the same thing necessarily: i.e. you’re a lot better off picking up a chair and whacking someone with it than behaving like a giant praying mantis.

But SELF DEFENCE, dear children is about avoiding bad areas; training in your natural tendencies (to me there’s a lot of beauty in headbutting, biting and general treachery, but true beauty is to win) and not entering into mysticism unless mysticism is a hobby or you are doing a Master’s degree at Uni or you have a lifetime worth of spare time.

One of the toughest men I know is about 5ft6 and is an experienced brawler and is scary, not because he is a martial artist or sportsman, but because he IS prepared to do anything to win.

That is something to consider.

I have brain damage; you are just a wanker.

“The streetfighter will always win!” Jerry, former wrestling boxing and judo champ

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“you’re a lot better off picking up a chair and whacking someone with it than behaving like a giant praying mantis.”

LMAO

“In the prairie fields, the poppies blow
All the crosses, row and row
They are the dead, short days ago
They lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow” - Warcloud

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The thing I liked about MacYoung was that he pointed out that martial arts and self defence are not ultimately the same thing necessarily: i.e. you’re a lot better off picking up a chair and whacking someone with it than behaving like a giant praying mantis.

But will a chair stop an eagle claw or drunken monkey kung-fu? Hehehe

(to me there’s a lot of beauty in headbutting, biting and general treachery, but true beauty is to win)

There’s no beauty in that at all. Your mental faculties should never be used as an impact device, not unless you want to end up like Muhammad Ali. As for biting, catching hepatitis comes to mind.

If you know what you’re doing, these should never be options. They only present themselves when the ‘defender’ is in dire straits and on the verge of losing or being killed.

One of the toughest men I know is about 5ft6 and is an experienced brawler and is scary, not because he is a martial artist or sportsman, but because he IS prepared to do anything to win.

Toughness is relative and mostly psychological, I remember Bennie Cooley (an Offensive fighting mindset, 1st rate firearms instructor) talking about an incident involving a thug resisting arrest. This guy was knocking around some cops and after being cut and banged up, one of the officers decided he had enough and shot the troublemaker in the back dropping the man to his knees. The troublemaker started laughing and said, “Man that was a good hit, what did you hit me with, a board?” To which the cop replied, “No, I shot you.” “You shot me?” The man said in stunned response. And the guy dropped over dead.

Of course that’s just an example of how powerful the mind can be and affect action. But the toughness you afford another is often an illusion, because even if he’s won a fight or ten, doesn’t mean his experience is reliable or his methods validated. Simply because we don’t know what components or variables were involved, were his attackers armed or empty-handed, what was his opponents skill level and knowledge, were they common street fighters or skilled dojo warriors or were their abilities comparable to his own? Et cetera et cetera…

The illusion of a “tough guy” can only carry you so far. It’s good for average situation for bravado, but if you ever run into another individual that doesn’t care about your ‘background’ he’s going to target that tough guys structural weak points and shut him down. On the other hand, he may just pull out a gun as the cop did and just shoot him.

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Edited by - Kungfoolss on April 17 2003 00:02:56

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My friend the former brawler doesn’t use bravado; he’s a gentleman who has been vegetarian from 17 and a teetotaller from 40 (he’s 43). What I am saying is that he is formidable without ever worrying about “chi” and because his training is in treachery and unfairness.

However, he would not use his skills to hurt anyone else who was innocent and doesn’t brag: If he did, I would present a very fine target, being disabled and everything.

As for not head-butting, have you heard of the Eritrean art of Testa? It’s entirely headbutts.

I personally have escaped situations by biting and head-butting and am fine.

I have brain damage; you are just a wanker.

“The streetfighter will always win!” Jerry, former wrestling boxing and judo champ

Edited by - Angry_Spastic on April 17 2003 00:16:44

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I personally have escaped situations by biting and head-butting and am fine.

I have brain damage; you are just a wanker.

I don’t mean to be a doubting thomas, but your quote doesn’t exactly enforce your argument…

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Okay, I have CONGENITAL brain damage, hence the handle Angry_Spastic.

(Angry as in militant, Spastic as in palsied.)

I have brain damage; you are just a wanker.

“The streetfighter will always win!” Jerry, former wrestling boxing and judo champ