He’s 100% correct, and the kind of review you go through for getting that kind of clearance goes above and beyond what most people expect, especially in terms of polygraph examinations (often multiple) and psychological battery. It can even include visitations with licensed psychotherapists.
With no criminal record and a sparkling “clean slate”, I went through SF-86 processing for TS/SCI in 1999 and the overall process was intense and took about 6 or 7 months before I was “almost done”, and even then there were remaining issues. Going through multiple polygraphs is stressful enough (and those machines are just bullshit, I can tell you with certainty), but some of the questions on the psych battery (400 multiple choice questions or so) were beyond bizarre.
Some real examples (paraphrased from memory):[INDENT]“Can you see ghosts?”
“Do you ever speak to the dead?”
“If you knew your mother had committed murder, would you turn her in?”
[/INDENT]The entire process was so mentally exhausting I chose to end the process myself and look for work in the private sector instead (a decision I stand by to this day). It was just not worth it to me anymore to keep trying to find what they were looking for… I felt just like Chunk, being forced to tell the Fratellis about EVERYTHING.
The irony is though, that for all that interrogation, the TLAs and other intelligence organizations STILL have people who are cleared and should not be (pick any famous double agent), and they never clear plenty of people who are probably 100% trustworthy, usually due to the idiocy of polygraphs.
Thank you for another incredibly self-centered post in which an anecdote from your personal past attempts to illustrate the incredibly obvious and fails.
Did you notice SAD/Cassius’ military tag? I am reasonably sure that he has much more experience with the security clearance process than you do, and I therefore strongly suspect that he has experience handling and protecting various levels of classified information – experience you totally lack.
As for the government having many people who shouldn’t be cleared, that’s true, but you really can’t use most spies as examples.
Right you really can’t use that argument at all because, that criteria fits ANY job from Janitor to President.
Who has been making the most noise recently? Iran and N. Korea. There’s documents leaked about both that imply they’re all on their little lonesome if push comes to shove. Sounds like someone is trying to exploit wikileaks to me.
See, I wondered about this as well.
[quote=Styygens;2477073]Thank you for another incredibly self-centered post in which an anecdote from your personal past attempts to illustrate the incredibly obvious and fails.
Did you notice SAD/Cassius’ military tag? I am reasonably sure that he has much more experience with the security clearance process than you do, and I therefore strongly suspect that he has experience handling and protecting various levels of classified information – experience you totally lack.[/quote]
Yes I know Cassius’s tags, and his forum too.
The top leadership of China directed the attacks and infiltration into Google, Inc. The information war doesn’t just take place on government networks.
[quote=Gezere;2477053]Who did you blow!?!?!
That’s pretty fast for even “almost done.”
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It was for something that used to the called NEIP, a Network Evaluation Intership Program, a training-to-hire program at NSA.
“Through Osmosis and Quitting”…shut the fuck up IIF. I’ve worked in infosec for over a decade, processed clearances, compartmentalized and classified information…and gone through SF-86 processing, so my “personal anecdote” was a personal experience relative to the discussion of the challenges of obtaining top level security clearances, why was it not worth sharing? “Self-centered” was not the intent.
Yeah, that’s it, you egotistical testicular growth. Seeing that you are throwing stones in that glass house of yours, I wish to suggest aiming away from the supporting structure.
